"The Ring" Is Pacquiao Now Milking His Past Success

[Pacquiao'd]

For a fighter like Hatton? Hatton was not all that either. Never.

But, he was the best in the division. Was the division weak? Sure. But, still the #1 dude.

The only other fight was there for Pac. Was JMM at 135. Besides that Hatton was the logical choice. So I don't really understand your beef at all with that fight.

Is like you're looking at it in hindsight instead of what was looked upon that time.

i never said he was. but Mayweather hatton or pre mayweather hatton would have beaten paulie, brutallly, well before the 11th round. which shows how much floyd took out of him. but hatton would have gotten whooped up on by some of the guys in the lower division.

the 140lb division was super weak and the result of their rankings was b/c of that reason

[comanick]

do you? it doesnt take half a brain to know that if there wasn't any ost, the fight wouldve happen. but if floyd rejected the 10mil penalty, who knows? they might have renegotiated to make or break the fight. and that's where you reading comprehension ****** big time.

You are playing a guessing game. You dont know that if there was no test request that the fight would happen. You dont and you cant know so why use it as a point for your argument. Nobody knows what would happen if there was no test. nobody, not even you.

But this is a pointless argument because i can just say if he agreed we would have had the fight. But why are you going off on a tangent? This article is about who manny is fighting not who floyd isnt fighting. we have seen 100 of those articles. Is it because this article is spot on and you have nothing to say but to bring floyds name up. What floyd does has nothing to do with manny and vice versa. Its funny when people bring up floyd to excuse the bs that many pulls. You would think he was floyds B$#%h or something.

[IMDAZED]

You are playing a guessing game. You dont know that if there was no test request that the fight would happen. You dont and you cant know so why use it as a point for your argument. Nobody knows what would happen if there was no test. nobody, not even you.

But this is a pointless argument because i can just say if he agreed we would have had the fight. But why are you going off on a tangent? This article is about who manny is fighting not who floyd isnt fighting. we have seen 100 of those articles. Is it because this article is spot on and you have nothing to say but to bring floyds name up. What floyd does has nothing to do with manny and vice versa. Its funny when people bring up floyd to excuse the bs that many pulls. You would think he was floyds B$#%h or something.

It really is pathetic but you have to understand, most of these guys aren't boxing fans. Just Pac d*ckriders. They don't care about the sport - only how good Manny looks.

[jrosales13]

i never said he was. but Mayweather hatton or pre mayweather hatton would have beaten paulie, brutallly, well before the 11th round. which shows how much floyd took out of him. but hatton would have gotten whooped up on by some of the guys in the lower division.

the 140lb division was super weak and the result of their rankings was b/c of that reason

Anyways, it was the next logical opponent besides JMM at 135. The man at 140. And, even pre Floyd or whatever Pac still whoops Hatton ass. Just not all that. Just not.....

At the end to have a beef with that fight is just plain hatting. That is like me having a beef with Floyd-Hatton when they were tougher fights at 147 then freakin Ricky Hatton. However, I understood why that fight happened so I have no beef with it whatsoever.

[comanick]

It really is pathetic but you have to understand, most of these guys aren't boxing fans. Just Pac d*ckriders. They don't care about the sport - only how good Manny looks.

Thanks. i see that now and it is pathetic.

[AnthalaX]

Good read. Its one thing for fans to say it on forums but when the ring writes an article about it that means a good deal of people feel the same.

http://www.ringtv.com/blog/2441/is_pacquiao_now_milking_his_past_success/

Is Pacquiao now milking his past success?Posted Oct. 21, 2010 at 10:36pm
By Michael RosenthalBuzz up!



Manny Pacquiao built his reputation on facing -– and beating –- the best-possible opponents at each step of his meteoric ascension in boxing, accepting challenges that many of the sport’s stars work hard to avoid these days. He has been what all fighters should be.

Has that changed?

The Filipino icon is scheduled to face former welterweight titleholder Antonio Margarito on Nov. 13 at Cowboys Stadium, his second consecutive fight against an unworthy opponent.

Yes, Joshua Clottey, Pacquiao’s last foe, was a legitimate contender. But he had lost his previous fight -– a close decision to Miguel Cotto –- and was a relative unknown. Pacquiao-Clottey wasn’t anywhere near as gripping as were matchups with Oscar De La Hoya, Ricky Hatton and a trio of great Mexicans.

That fight was a showcase for Pacquiao and the new Cowboys Stadium and had almost nothing to do with the challenger, who disappointed everyone by barely putting up a fight.

And now Pacquiao is facing an opponent who was suspended for using illegal hand wraps, was pummeled by an aging Shane Mosley in his last meaningful fight and looked mediocre at best in his comeback bout against a no-name opponent.

Margarito has done nothing to deserve this fight except maintain his allegiance to Bob Arum, who also happens to promote Pacquiao, Clottey and Cotto.

Pacquiao will look as spectacular as ever when he dismantles the tough, but plodding Mexican in a manner that will remind you of the Mosley fight, which means it’ll be fun to watch. But the result is so predictable that it’ll mean next to nothing.

Is that what Pacquiao wants? To beat up fighters who have no business in the ring with him? This isn’t the Pacquiao we’ve grown to admire.

To be fair, I believe he fully intended to fight Floyd Mayweather Jr. over the past year but was unable to come to terms with his prime rival on two occasions. Had that fight happened, of course, his choice of opponents would be above reproach.

But when it became clear that the super fight wasn’t going to happen, he didn’t have to turn to Clottey and Margarito.

There were better options. The most-deserving possible opponent is Juan Manuel Marquez, who lost two controversial decisions to Pacquiao. He would’ve loved to be in the ring Nov. 13. And several other talented fighters between 140 and 154 pounds, fighters who might be able to give Pacquiao a fight, would gladly do whatever it takes to receive such an opportunity.

I want to blame Arum but I can’t, at least not wholeheartedly.

Yes, we’re frustrated that he and arch rival Golden Boy Promotions are unable to do business at the moment. That would seem to preclude a Pacquiao-Marquez fight anytime soon. And the promoters’ inclination to keep their fights in house to maximize profits is maddening. Arum has an explanation, though: Why should he invest the time and money to build stars only to have relatively obscure opponents piggy back on his work and make millions?

I would respond by saying that the best-possible matchups, regardless of promoter, are better for the sport and everyone involved in the long run. Still, he might have a point.

Also, one could argue that Arum’s principal duty to his fighters is to generate the most money for the least risk. That’s a good short-term business model even if the sport suffers. And make no mistake: Pacquiao-Margarito will generate a windfall for everyone involved.

In the end, I place the blame on Pacquiao, who makes the final decisions.

He took extreme risks throughout his remarkable career. Between 2003 and 2009, 10 of 15 fights were against probable or potential hall of famers -- Marco Antonio Barrera (twice), Marquez (twice), Erik Morales (three times), De La Hoya, Hatton and Cotto. That mind-boggling stretch made him into a superstar beloved the world over.

Now, evidence suggests, he's exploiting that success to make as much money as possible instead of giving his fans what they deserve -- real fights.

Do I think he made a conscious decision to fight inferior foes? Absolutely not. It doesn’t matter, though. That’s what he’s doing. And it will hurt his legacy if the trend continues, which is likely: Arum is talking about a rematch with Cotto, who doesn’t deserve the opportunity after losing badly in their first meeting.

Pacquiao is allowed a few gimmies, if that’s what these are. We’ll forget all about Clottey and Margarito if he fights Mayweather, Marquez or another worthy foe in his next fight and goes back to challenging himself. Here’s the key, though: He has to make it happen. No one else will.

The current king of boxing has a reservation for the International Boxing Hall of Fame exactly five years after he retires no matter who he fights. He’s accomplished more than enough. Still, I can’t believe that he really wants to coast into retirement against the Clotteys and Margaritos of the world.


Michael Rosenthal can be reached at RingTVeditor@yahoo.com

Pac would be crucified if he fights Marquez right now... dude lost to Floyd and hasn't proven himself in the weight class of Pac.. this writer is nvm...

[straightleft]

lol at these *****s saying Pac cherry picked his fights.

Pac fights at 126 he fought Barrera and Marquez currently the best in that division. Take note in Nov. 2003-2004, any fighters at 126 <<< Barrera and Marquez.

Pac fights at 130 he fought the 3 Mexican legends, his trilogy with Morales, rematch with Barrera and Marquez. Take note between 2005-2008, any fighters at 130 <<< Morales, Barrera and Marquez.

Pac first fight at 135 he straight away fought a decent champ David Diaz while most of the fighters will take a tune up fight first, testing the water by fighting a bum or less dangerous opponent. Pac immediately move up without fighting the others. Take note in December 2008, any fighters at lightweight <<< Oscar at 147 before the outcome of their fight.

Pac first fight at 147 he jumped straight away from 135 (Pac has only one fight at 135 to boot) to 147 to fight Oscar yet some other ridiculous *****s wanted the fight to happen at 154 or 160 so Oscar can re-hydrate as middleweight against lightweight Pac.

Pac first fight at 140 he moved down from 147 after the Oscar fight to fight Hatton at best weight where he actually undefeated. Unlike Floyd asked Hatton and JMM to move up in his division to his advantage. Take note in May 2009, any fighters at 140 <<< Hatton.

Pac first title fight at welterweight he moved up from 140 after the Hatton fight to fight Cotto at 145. Take note in November 2009, any fighters at welterweight, Floyd (scared), Mosley & Clottey (already lose to him), Margarito (plastercheat) <<<< Cotto.

Pac also fought Clottey, a big durable welterweight and for the first time Clottey admitted he felt Pac fight was his only true loses.

Put aside the title, now Pac scheduled to fight Margarito at 150. No matter how the *****s spin it, this is a dangerous fight for him than at 147.

So if Pac really cherry picked his fight then tell me who should he fights in every divisions by that time frame he was there providing us with valid reasons why he should fight them.

[jrosales13]

Pac would be crucified if he fights Marquez right now... dude lost to Floyd and hasn't proven himself in the weight class of Pac.. this writer is nvm...

The only way the JMM fight is legit is if it is at 135. Anything higher Pac should be crucified for fighting JMM just like he should be crucified for fighting Margarito at a catchweight for a vacant title that neither deserve.

Berto @ 147(even though IMO he is less of a risk than Margarito) and Bradley @ 140 were more deserving for Nov then Marg is.

[el salsalero]

if it was the root cause. then why did pac and roach welcome it with open arms, at first. then continued to switch their position on the issue, eventually getting what they asked for BUT, they still walk away?

theres more to the story than this "ego" bs you want to claim. hence why many people have su****ions about pac and his team having something to hide.

roach and pac did welcome it, that is why Pac agreed to 3 blood draws but not on the day of the fight and giving urine sample everyday. he's willing to do more what the commission didn't even require him to do.

which people are you talking about? the more than 50,000 who watched him live and the 700,000+ who paid HBO...suuuure they have their su****ions LMAO!

[Twako]

You are playing a guessing game. You dont know that if there was no test request that the fight would happen. You dont and you cant know so why use it as a point for your argument. Nobody knows what would happen if there was no test. nobody, not even you.

But this is a pointless argument because i can just say if he agreed we would have had the fight. But why are you going off on a tangent? This article is about who manny is fighting not who floyd isnt fighting. we have seen 100 of those articles. Is it because this article is spot on and you have nothing to say but to bring floyds name up. What floyd does has nothing to do with manny and vice versa. Its funny when people bring up floyd to excuse the bs that many pulls. You would think he was floyds B$#%h or something.

lol this is what happens when you butt in other's arguments, you'd look ******. i was answering a post where mayweather and OST was being presented by another poster when you itched to reply to me. it's your brain that's off-tangent, you got your replies mixed up dude.