Comments Thread For: The Perfect 10: One Man’s Ballot For The IBHOF 2011

[jrosales13]

damn how many are allowed in each year ?
thts some class
tyson chavez tszyu vadquez sven
i have to be there!!!

Just 3 some one of the 4 you mentioned is going to be left out.

[giacomino]

Re: Ottke and "haters." The use of the word "haters" to describe anyone who opposes Ottke getting into the HOF is a juvenile cop-out and, like, soooooo 2006. It's really not a legitimate substitute for argument.
Some of us are over the age of 19 and actually did see Ottke fight, many times in fact. His competition wasn't terrible (like, say, Erdei or Zbik) and he was pretty good at his style, for what it was. In the final analysis, he was a clever fighter who knew he would absolutely never, ever lose at home in Germany and used that fact to build up an impressive record of close, albeit sometimes questionable, decisions. That doesn't make him a HOFer.

[antrob]

Plenty guys has made the HOF less deserving than Ottke, who happens to have a solid resumé. I guess the majority of posters in this thread just hates as a knee-jerk reaction. I doubt many has actually seen him fight. I have. Being bored countless saturdays.... I could almost always see Ottke winning although there was little doubt the decisions where close.



In regards to the ballot this seem to be a strong class and I pretty much agree with the writer. Why no love for Gushiken though?

That's true but, the hall of fame has turned a corner in recent years and has been very careful in who they allowed in. Which how it should be. Remember it's the Hall of Fame, not the Hall of very good.

[antrob]

Just 3 some one of the 4 you mentioned is going to be left out.

Vasquez is not getting in.

[jbpanama]

FITZ obviously never saw Jose Beccera FIGHT!!!
How many cats fought in ball parks and the
100,000 seat, L.A. Colisium??? GREAT FIGHTER!!!

[jbpanama]

FITZ obviously never saw Jose Beccera FIGHT!!!
How many cats fought in ball parks and the
100,000 seat, L.A. Colisium??? GREAT FIGHTER!!!

Hamad, not in this Cats League!!!

[Tiozzo]

Chavez and Tyson are sure to get in.

[edgarg]

By Lyle Fitzsimmons - Third time’s a charm? Yeah, maybe... but I doubt it.

In fact, when it comes to this time of year in my incarnation as a boxing writer, I pretty much expect the next couple of days to be filled with myriad message-board potshots and the random “you’re an idiot” lambasting via e-mail inbox drive-by.

Comes with the territory, I suppose.

And it sure beats working for a living.

The mid-autumn topic matter that so stirs up the masses is the annual ballot of fighters submitted for induction into the International Boxing Hall of Fame, tucked away in the timeless upstate hamlet of Canastota, N.Y.

I took my first crack at ballot-preparation two years ago and was an immediate rookie phenom, correctly endorsing the candidacy of all three modern-era Class of 2009 inductees – Orlando Canizales, Lennox Lewis and Brian Mitchell.

The sop****re batting average plummeted from 1.000 to .500, however, when just one of the trio’s eventual 2010 classmates – South Korean 108-pounder Jung-Koo Chang – was checked off as a “yes” vote on the ballot I submitted last October.

The majority of the voting population liked Danny “Little Red” Lopez just as much.

As for me… not so much. [Click Here To Read More]

I think that Becerra, Curry and Hiroyuki Ebirhara should be chosen. Also Peter kane, he definitely had a Hof F career.

[grayfist]

Why a "NO" for Marcel, Lyle? Nato not only beat Arguello in the same year that Arguello later beat Ruben Olivares, Marcel also beat--in a Jr. Lightweight non-title fight-- Samuel Serrrano (to whom you are giving a "YES") just a couple of months prior to defeating Arguello.

Marcel also won five of his six career title fights with one draw (vs. Kuniaki Shibata, who, earlier took the WBC Featherweight title from Vicente Saldivar and then, years later, the WBC Jr. Lightweight crown from Ben Villaflora, who held Serrano to a draw in their first fight). His five wins include those against Spider Nemoto who later gave Royal Kobayashi fits in a fight that ended in a very controversial draw in favor of Kobayashi and Antonio Gomez (2x) who had dealt Esteban De Jesus his first defeat before facing Marcel.

Well, okay, Marcel had a winning defense against some guy named Enrique Garcia but then Arguello also had a Diego Alcala...

I'm not sure, but I think Marcel was undefeated as a Featherweight. His four career losses were in divisions lower or higher (all non-title fights), the most notable of the latter being that one vs. Roberto Duran, which was also Marcel's lone loss by stoppage (in the final round of a scheduled 10).

Note: The draw vs. Shibata was in Japan officiated by a scoring Korean ref with two Japanese as judges.

[2501]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, Sven Ottke deserves no place in the IBHOF.

Deadmau5 sucks and is a douche.