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  • No1
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    #1

    Why all the catch weight bulls**t

    Recently there has been alot of catch weight fights. One certain fighter is notorious for fighting at catchweights and still claiming he's won the belt in that division.

    What are your opinions on this catchweight fight idea?

    I really really dont like it. If you want to move up a weight to fight a champ for the title then fight at the real weight. Ie. 147 for the WW crown.

    It gives the fighter a massive advantage who is moving up as his opponent has to drain down further than normail, thus making himself weaker in the process. I dont ever remember the likes of tommy hearns bi*ching and whining about weight issues. If you move up and loose against the bigger guy then so be it, atleast you fought like a champ and didnt try and get every little advantage you could.
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    #2
    Originally posted by No1
    Recently there has been alot of catch weight fights. One certain fighter is notorious for fighting at catchweights and still claiming he's won the belt in that division.

    What are your opinions on this catchweight fight idea?

    I really really dont like it. If you want to move up a weight to fight a champ for the title then fight at the real weight. Ie. 147 for the WW crown.

    It gives the fighter a massive advantage who is moving up as his opponent has to drain down further than normail, thus making himself weaker in the process. I dont ever remember the likes of tommy hearns bi*ching and whining about weight issues. If you move up and loose against the bigger guy then so be it, atleast you fought like a champ and didnt try and get every little advantage you could.
    A catchweight fight isn't that bad if,lets say an actual champ agrees to the terms!!But catchweights start getting out of order when it's to fighters simply at a catchweight for a vacant title!!Or when 1 of the fighters just loves catchweights!!

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    • Rick Grimes
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      #3
      If you want to claim to be champion fight the champ at his best not at a catchweight that makes him weaker before the fight.

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      • Ryannn
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        #4
        catchweights aren't as bad as people make it out to be.

        catch weights are not new, atg's have fought in catch weights, won titles in them, etc...

        there are a lot of things worse in boxing than catch weights.

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        • MJ406
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          #5
          ^ catchweights are still pretty bad. If you want to beat someone beat them at their best. Some boxers have enough trouble making weight as is ... why throw in 3-4 extra pounds with a silly catchweight?

          an ESPN article a year back or so listed 15 catchweight bouts and most all of the ones listed seemed utterly worthless (such as Trinidad-Jones Jr for example) or even Malignaggi-Diaz

          with so many weight divisions, I don't see a big need for catchweights

          and what I think so many boxing fans miss are it's the concept of catchweights is what I don't like the most as if the weight or size differential is so drastic that you need to handicap the fight by controlling the weight of your opponent a couple pounds

          I just find it pathetic. Yeah "both guys sign the contract" but why have an extra handicap with a specific weight restriction?

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          • Scott9945
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            #6
            I'm against world titles being at stake when there is a catchweight. But I also realize that it is a lost cause.

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            • Ryannn
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              #7
              Originally posted by MJ406
              ^ catchweights are still pretty bad. If you want to beat someone beat them at their best. Some boxers have enough trouble making weight as is ... why throw in 3-4 extra pounds with a silly catchweight?

              an ESPN article a year back or so listed 15 catchweight bouts and most all of the ones listed seemed utterly worthless (such as Trinidad-Jones Jr for example) or even Malignaggi-Diaz

              with so many weight divisions, I don't see a big need for catchweights

              and what I think so many boxing fans miss are it's the concept of catchweights is what I don't like the most as if the weight or size differential is so drastic that you need to handicap the fight by controlling the weight of your opponent a couple pounds

              I just find it pathetic. Yeah "both guys sign the contract" but why have an extra handicap with a specific weight restriction?
              i still think there is too much *****ing about catch weights. guys who are going down a few pounds to face a naturally smaller guy usually wins.

              de la hoya-hopkins
              whitaker- chavez
              hopkins- pavlik

              on the top of my head. point is, it isn't too easy for the smaller guys to beat these bigger guys as pac makes it seem.

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              • ADP02
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                #8
                Originally posted by Ryannn
                i still think there is too much *****ing about catch weights. guys who are going down a few pounds to face a naturally smaller guy usually wins.

                de la hoya-hopkins
                whitaker- chavez
                hopkins- pavlik

                on the top of my head. point is, it isn't too easy for the smaller guys to beat these bigger guys as pac makes it seem.
                You are right, the smaller guy has issues of his own. Look at Trinidad against Hopkins. Trinidad couldn't bring up the power he had to that weight.

                While I will not put everyone in this boat but as much as I also am not too crazy with catchweights some of these guys are trying to just use it against Manny. Plain and simple as that.

                Example: Manny defeated Morales but many of the Floyd fans have said, get this, why couldn't Manny have fought Morales at a catchweight (eg. 132) so that Morales would not come in weight drained?

                I too wouldn't have mind seeing a catchweight so to help out Morales BUT I knew this simple answer.... The simple answer was that they were fighting for a title that has a limit of 130.

                No matter what the answer was, the point is that they didn't mind to see a catchweight when it was against Manny.

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                • Ryannn
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by ADP02
                  You are right, the smaller guy has issues of his own. Look at Trinidad against Hopkins. Trinidad couldn't bring up the power he had to that weight.

                  While I will not put everyone in this boat but as much as I also am not too crazy with catchweights some of these guys are trying to just use it against Manny. Plain and simple as that.

                  Example: Manny defeated Morales but many of the Floyd fans have said, get this, why couldn't Manny have fought Morales at a catchweight (eg. 132) so that Morales would not come in weight drained?

                  I too wouldn't have mind seeing a catchweight so to help out Morales BUT I knew this simple answer.... The simple answer was that they were fighting for a title that has a limit of 130.

                  No matter what the answer was, the point is that they didn't mind to see a catchweight when it was against Manny.
                  the only thing that makes margarito-pac annoying is that its for the title. they should have had made it at 147 for pac's title.

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                  • clmags12
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                    #10
                    Catchweights are in place for different sized fighters to make fights? There are advantages and disadvantages for both parties involved.

                    I thought I was on Boxingscene, not B!tchscene.

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