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  • boxingfan76
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    #51
    Originally posted by LoStranger
    im picking Manny by KO in 8 or 9 Clottey (defensively gifted) is a completely different fighter to Marg u cnt really compare the two
    yeah and margs took hiz zero, clottey really was robbed in the cotto fight. margs took his zero also on top of martinez and cintrons zero. margs would have to have zero left to not hang with pac, thats the premise of this fight, the whole reason pac picked him and not a legit jr middle, and its what team pac is counting on to look good. pac is a great fighter but his speed alone isnt enough to convince me hes a devastating welterweight, let a lone catchweight jr middle. he just fights everybodys leftovers then gets deemed pnd for pnd . what about guys like margs that actually took the risk and fought winners?if u want to compare margs has been in with far more dangerous dudes, the only reason this fight is interesting is because margs lost brutally and the midget is popular.

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    • B.U.R.N.E.R
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      #52
      Yeah what Roach didnt mention is that Margarito also wont weigh anymore than 150 Pounds.

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      • bluetuazon
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        #53
        Originally posted by boxingfan76
        u dont know that he loaded his gloves and guess what ?the people making these decisions dont know boxing, they are politicians, its very political. if margs even goes the distance after being destroyed by mosley, and not looking good in his last fight, it makes their decision and "evidence " that much weaker. resto is a proven cheater, margs isnt a proven cheater. therefore i will not hate on my homeboy and will support him regardless. hes been treated unfairly, hated on ,served his time and hes at the mercy of people that have no word. their word means shiat. the texas comissioner was a boxer and after reveiwing all the 'evidence findings" even the handwraps themselves came to the conclusion the california comissioners dont even know what theyre talking about.my boy is the underdog. I hope he wins cuz im tired of pac and his team handpickig guys coming off of devastating losses then bragging about it and getting accolades for not facing the top guys. then cheating boxing history and having to listen to all the ******* ******ity.pac is a great fighter if he wont fight other great fighters then its time for him to lose, hes as guilty as mayweather, maybe worse, at least mayweather didnt duck mosley.margs will give a good account of himself and make a lot of people look really ******, ko by 8 my ass, guy couldnt even move clottey, clottey threw like 8 shots and pac still got all busted up.
        he put it on himself..if he wasnt ****** then he would know whats up...and oh i know that he loaded his gloves man..cause he GOT CAUGHT!..bro seriously are u even listening to urself?? the reason why he didnt look good on his last 2 fight is because there is no more wraps for him...got beat up by mosley and didnt look good fighting a bum...i dont like this match up because margs didnt do anything to even desrve a fight with pac...but i blame ARUM for that...yet this is what we have and i might as well enjoy it...and ur undermining pacs accomplishments is short of dumb IMO...a small guy beating all this who's who of the boxing world...give him props man...he was handpicked by DLH and oscar suffered the price....beat hatton on his OWN weightclass to get a lineal title....beat the supposed bigger and better cotto on cottos weight class..u see pac is a natural lightweight or jww....fighting bigger guys means he got some cajones?? can u imagine mayweather going 2 weight classes up to face any of the super six or even fight PWILL or Sergio Martinez? mayweather didnt duck SSM good for him but he ducked margs when margs was a live contender in WW...oh well the haters will hate...who wouldnt?? i mean an asian in the top P4P rankings?? dont worry mex..ull get one soon after pac retires..im eyeing on canelo anyway..

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          #54
          margs holds the world record for most punches thrown in a fight, now clottey hardly threw anything and what he did throw it landed and did serious damage .now its safe to say pac is going to get punched more than he has in any recent fight margs isnt clottey or cotto that wont fight back. unless margs is shot this will be a war. and there is the matter of pacs power , he hasnt kod anybody at welter theyve been tkos.margs knocked down a guy with one loss in the 1st round of his last fight and won a unanimous dec.a guy far bigger than pac is( so much for no plaster power?) after a more than a year layoff, so its not as bad as it seems, while pac whos the number one guy took serious damage,in the cotto and clottey fights despite winning big and margs is just gonna get ko'd??? margs already beat those guys when they were better he taught them to lose. the only person being underestimated is margs.margs isnt hatton gaylahoya shot ass cotto or 3rd b-class no throwing clottey.

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            #55
            Originally posted by boxingfan76
            its 150 lbs 151 was too much an advantage roach felt, so he had it stipulated in the contract 150lbs. its not 151. its 150 roach changed his mind , he wants everything stacked in his favor ,u know god forbid they fight for a belt at the actual jr middle weight of 154lbs.margarito said roach changed their mind to 150lbs,what a crock or crap, if weight and size dont matter why ask for ridiculous handicaps then??? cant stand freddie roach anymore hes turned into an arrogant ****. size doesnt matter my ass.will grit and guts and heart also win fights.
            I agree, he should of let Margs fight at 154 and just came in the ring at 150. They could of won the vacant belt without all the flack. Thats what taints this "world title" record of 8 divisons crap

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              #56
              Originally posted by bluetuazon
              he put it on himself..if he wasnt ****** then he would know whats up...and oh i know that he loaded his gloves man..cause he GOT CAUGHT!..bro seriously are u even listening to urself?? the reason why he didnt look good on his last 2 fight is because there is no more wraps for him...got beat up by mosley and didnt look good fighting a bum...i dont like this match up because margs didnt do anything to even desrve a fight with pac...but i blame ARUM for that...yet this is what we have and i might as well enjoy it...and ur undermining pacs accomplishments is short of dumb IMO...a small guy beating all this who's who of the boxing world...give him props man...he was handpicked by DLH and oscar suffered the price....beat hatton on his OWN weightclass to get a lineal title....beat the supposed bigger and better cotto on cottos weight class..u see pac is a natural lightweight or jww....fighting bigger guys means he got some cajones?? can u imagine mayweather going 2 weight classes up to face any of the super six or even fight PWILL or Sergio Martinez? mayweather didnt duck SSM good for him but he ducked margs when margs was a live contender in WW...oh well the haters will hate...who wouldnt?? i mean an asian in the top P4P rankings?? dont worry mex..ull get one soon after pac retires..im eyeing on canelo anyway..
              whatever dude u dont even know yor facts pac chose this fight not arum. roach-"manny wanted this fight not me i wanted the 3rd jmm fight, its not a fight im comfortable with even now, im going with it cuz manny has beat bigger guys before but margs isnt a guy i wanted him to fight his size concerns me and when hes focused has a hell of a jab" thats roach as far as the hanwraps its tiresome, cotto was a tremendous underdog as well as hatton nobody really expected them to win other than ricans and brits.margs already beat some of those guys and held his own with pwill, dismissing all of his career as handwraps is just ****** because they were checked in every fight. its haterism, like i said margs has always been hated for being a spoiler before cotto now they have a great excuse to hate. im not buying it at all.

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              • bluetuazon
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                #57
                Originally posted by boxingfan76
                margs holds the world record for most punches thrown in a fight, now clottey hardly threw anything and what he did throw it landed and did serious damage .now its safe to say pac is going to get punched more than he has in any recent fight margs isnt clottey or cotto that wont fight back. unless margs is shot this will be a war. and there is the matter of pacs power , he hasnt kod anybody at welter theyve been tkos.margs knocked down a guy with one loss in the 1st round of his last fight and won a unanimous dec.a guy far bigger than pac is( so much for no plaster power?) after a more than a year layoff, so its not as bad as it seems, while pac whos the number one guy took serious damage,in the cotto and clottey fights despite winning big and margs is just gonna get ko'd??? margs already beat those guys when they were better he taught them to lose. the only person being underestimated is margs.margs isnt hatton gaylahoya shot ass cotto or 3rd b-class no throwing clottey.
                sure thing man..margs is a live opponent..i will not contest that...im contesting u undermining pacs accomplishment...u say margs holds this record of this and that..dude we already know that....see thats the reason why im buying this fight to see some live action and be entertained.....i never said that margs has no chance at all...but he has slim for reasons u and i already know...if margs will upset pac cleanly then ill give him his props...thats what u call respect man...pac never disrespected anyone...he fights and trains like a machine atleast give him props for that...u saying he fought apponents who have lost before? arent all boxers gulty of that?? most of the better boxers have lost in the past..so that means they are already shot after a loss?? cmon man..give credit where credit is due..

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by boxingfan76
                  whatever dude u dont even know yor facts pac chose this fight not arum. roach-"manny wanted this fight not me i wanted the 3rd jmm fight, its not a fight im comfortable with even now, im going with it cuz manny has beat bigger guys before but margs isnt a guy i wanted him to fight his size concerns me and when hes focused has a hell of a jab" thats roach as far as the hanwraps its tiresome, cotto was a tremendous underdog as well as hatton nobody really expected them to win other than ricans and brits.margs already beat some of those guys and held his own with pwill, dismissing all of his career as handwraps is just ****** because they were checked in every fight. its haterism, like i said margs has always been hated for being a spoiler before cotto now they have a great excuse to hate. im not buying it at all.
                  pac wanted mayweather right?? how come u say pac chose margs?? well if thats ur logic then u should give him props for "choosing" margs...u said margs is live opponent yeah? an oppnent to big and strong for him...u said roach wanted jmm but ofcourse arum wouldnt allow that because he wants the **** in-house...then again haters would hate regardless..

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by bluetuazon
                    pac wanted mayweather right?? how come u say pac chose margs?? well if thats ur logic then u should give him props for "choosing" margs...u said margs is live opponent yeah? an oppnent to big and strong for him...u said roach wanted jmm but ofcourse arum wouldnt allow that because he wants the **** in-house...then again haters would hate regardless..
                    im sure arum was happy afterall margs was his boy before pac was, but pacman chose this fight not arum or roach. this is according to freddie roach in dog hause boxing interview. now margs is a calculated risk because he lost real bad to mosley they chose him for this reason, thats what irks me and its does cheapen pacs accomplishments, because if hes cemented as being the best why choose margs???? margs to me is live underdog but was chosen for all the wrong reasons. on top of that a bs catchweight???its a cheap win if pac wins. face angulo or martinez since pac is sooo bad im really tired of him facing dudes coming off of devastating defeats, its old, and hes cheating history with the fake wts.margs is the underdog for good reason but i hope he pulls off a devastaing win for the good of the sport.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by bluetuazon
                      pac wanted mayweather right?? how come u say pac chose margs?? well if thats ur logic then u should give him props for "choosing" margs...u said margs is live opponent yeah? an oppnent to big and strong for him...u said roach wanted jmm but ofcourse arum wouldnt allow that because he wants the **** in-house...then again haters would hate regardless..
                      mayweather is a coward and i cant stand him but if he drops the games he has the style and ability to make quick work of manny and make it look easy. honetsley i want them both to lose, *******s need some humble pie and the mayweather clan does too.

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