Resume aside, is Floyd the most ATG SKILLED boxer?

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  • Doctor_Tenma
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    #21
    Originally posted by ThePrince
    Ricardo "Finito" Lopez.

    Is Floyd any more skilled than Pernell Whitaker?

    No.
    I agree, and his resume is better than Mayweather's too, PEACE.

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    • Johnwoo8686
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      #22
      I wouldn't say Floyd's welterweight career is a joke considering there was a lot of hype about the Zab Judah Fight because he was a southpaw, a former champion, and a fighter in his prime. Zab may be a natural 140 lber but Floyd is a guy who's best weight was @ 135 so the size argument is invalid. He was pidgeon holed into fighting Baldomir because Baldo was the lineal champ @ 147 at the time, no matter how much he lacks in skill Baldomir was the man to beat at the time.

      Calling Ricky Hatton a natural 140 lber is silly considering the fact that Ricky walks around at 170 to 180 lbs when inactive (far heavier than Floyd). And yes you can criticize the choice of fighting Marquez but other welterweights have forced lightweights to move up and fight them. Oscar De La Hoya did it twice and lost, Sugar Ray Leonard did it with Duran and lost. Floyd fights the number 1 lightweight and wins in dominant fashion after having been off for two years and he's somehow the one to get the most hate. SMH

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      • MiguelDirrell25
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        #23
        Originally posted by Young Money
        P4P, who would you rate higher?

        I still think skill wise alone he is above Whitaker, Leonard easily.
        To quote rick james "******* is a helluva drug"

        Dude lay off that nose candy , Leonard and whitaker will school floyd's prissy boxing style in the ring
        Leonard would of k floyd tfo with that superior handspeed and power

        So to answer your question HELL NO!

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        • GoogleMe
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          #24
          You can't call anyone the most skilled, but he's up there with Whitaker, Leonard, Jones and Ali.

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          • ThePrince
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            #25
            Originally posted by Johnwoo8686
            I wouldn't say Floyd's welterweight career is a joke considering there was a lot of hype about the Zab Judah Fight because he was a southpaw, a former champion, and a fighter in his prime. Zab may be a natural 140 lber but Floyd is a guy who's best weight was @ 135 so the size argument is invalid. He was pidgeon holed into fighting Baldomir because Baldo was the lineal champ @ 147 at the time, no matter how much he lacks in skill Baldomir was the man to beat at the time.
            Zab Judah is **** at 147, Floyd fought him after he lost to a club fighter in Baldomir. Since then he fizzled out against Floyd, got steamrolled by Cotto, and manhandled by Clottey at WW. The smartest move he made in his career was going back to 140.

            Calling Ricky Hatton a natural 140 lber is silly considering the fact that Ricky walks around at 170 to 180 lbs when inactive (far heavier than Floyd). And yes you can criticize the choice of fighting Marquez but other welterweights have forced lightweights to move up and fight them. Oscar De La Hoya did it twice and lost, Sugar Ray Leonard did it with Duran and lost. Floyd fights the number 1 lightweight and wins in dominant fashion after having been off for two years and he's somehow the one to get the most hate. SMH
            Hatton's best is CLEARLY at 140, this is not even debatable so don't bother embarrassing yourself by trying. Guy was literally invincible at 140, 40-something and 0, until he ran into Manny. He fought Collazo at 147 before Floyd and looked like complete **** and was clearly out of his element at that weight, ripe for the cherry-picking.

            Don't give me that he was off for X years nonsense, that was a self-imposed exile because he didn't want to fight Cotto, Margarito, Williams, Wright, etc and like recently, his solution was to 'retire' when he ran out of excuses. Don't act like his license/belts were stripped ala Ali or he had a detached retina like Leonard. He ducked, then came back to fight a 37 year old career featherweight and then present lightweight and came in over the agreed upon weight limit, because he needed even more advantages. Trying to twist it doesn't change the facts.

            His WW career has been a joke.

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            • viperz007
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              #26
              Originally posted by ThePrince
              Zab Judah is **** at 147, Floyd fought him after he lost to a club fighter in Baldomir. Since then he fizzled out against Floyd, got steamrolled by Cotto, and manhandled by Clottey at WW. The smartest move he made in his career was going back to 140.



              Hatton's best is CLEARLY at 140, this is not even debatable so don't bother embarrassing yourself by trying. Guy was literally invincible at 140, 40-something and 0, until he ran into Manny. He fought Collazo at 147 before Floyd and looked like complete **** and was clearly out of his element at that weight, ripe for the cherry-picking.

              Don't give me that he was off for X years nonsense, that was a self-imposed exile because he didn't want to fight Cotto, Margarito, Williams, Wright, etc and like recently, his solution was to 'retire' when he ran out of excuses. Don't act like his license/belts were stripped ala Ali or he had a detached retina like Leonard. He ducked, then came back to fight a 37 year old career featherweight and then present lightweight and came in over the agreed upon weight limit, because he needed even more advantages. Trying to twist it doesn't change the facts.

              His WW career has been a joke.
              *****s will just ignore ur post
              They only believe what they want to believe
              By saying that, u just wasted ur time typing lol

              Aight peace

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              • loomis
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                #27
                even ray leonard acknowledged floyd was the best skilled wise fighter he,d seen. that says it all for me. those who blindly disagree are floyd haters, pacman lovers or simply know nothing about the sport of boxing.

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                • Suckmedry
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                  #28
                  Yeah, Floyd is up there. Anyone who says otherwise is deluding themselves. It takes incredible natural gifts combined with great skills and decades of hard work to be able to fight like Floyd.

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                  • #1Assassin
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                    #29
                    whitaker, pep, robinson, charles, walcott, hearns, mccallum ect were all more skilled than floyd just to name a few. floyd is probably a top 15 purely most skilled fighter ever, maybe 10.

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                    • nelsoncm
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by GoogleMe
                      You can't call anyone the most skilled, but he's up there with Whitaker, Leonard, Jones and Ali.
                      Count in Malignaggi ang Chris Byrd too.

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