Comments Thread For: Vitali Klitschko: Haye, Not Enough Speed or Power To Win

[Dave Rado]

So you are still supporting this fraud then even after realizing all the **** was bullocks coming out of his mouth? I understand he claims to be British and all but the vagina lives in Cypress so he doesn't have to pay taxes like you do and he wears the Cypriot flag!

He will never fight a Kltischko, I will eat crow even if he gets in the ring with one of the Klitschkos, in fact I will put -"David Haye is a brave man" in my avatar if he does that, forget about him ever beating them, he won't get in the ring with them.

He'll fight Vitali next year and he's hoping that Vitali will have slowed down enough to be beatable by then. He won't fight Wlad. He has to fight one of the bros next year because even the gullible British sports fans will lose patience with him if he doesn't, and will stop paying to watch him fight. But it will be Vitali, not Wlad. I'd bet all my points on that.

[kenso]

Not happy about it to be honest, but I guess all the british fans want to see Audley get KTFOd.
But Haye will fight either klitschko next year. You can say he wont but wait n see.
I cant wait for your reaction when haye beats them.

1 million points says haye doesn't fight a klitschko by what ever his birthday was. (oct something?)

[FloydTBE]

1 million points says haye doesn't fight a klitschko by what ever his birthday was. (oct something?)

Check your PM's mate

[STRUGG]

Im kinda liking the KLITS more..........i still hope HAYE and him gets to fight.......

[nomadman]

He'll fight Vitali next year and he's hoping that Vitali will have slowed down enough to be beatable by then. He won't fight Wlad. He has to fight one of the bros next year because even the gullible British sports fans will lose patience with him if he doesn't, and will stop paying to watch him fight. But it will be Vitali, not Wlad. I'd bet all my points on that.

At this stage it wouldn't surprise me if he fights someone like Dimitrenko and tries to pass him off as a Klit. The degree of ridiculousness, deception and gall that this man has is beyond measure.

[Dave Rado]

Vitali's being ridiculous here. Haye certainly has the speed and power to win. What he doesn't have is a chin or any sort of mid to late round stamina, nor the sorts of boxing skills that would enable to him to win a decision. But speed and power? No, he has those in abundance.

The most important thing Haye lacks is the ability to nullify a good jab - the Ruiz fight proved that. And if he can't do that he won't be able to land any clean power punches on either Klitschko, unless Vitali slows down a lot, which I suspect is what he's waiting for, and is the real reason he turned down Wlad's 50/50 offer.

[Dave Rado]

At this stage it wouldn't surprise me if he fights someone like Dimitrenko and tries to pass him off as a Klit. The degree of ridiculousness, deception and gall that this man has is beyond measure.

He's a very good snake oil salesman, but the so far ridiculously loyal British boxing press will turn against him if he doesn't fight a Klitschko next year, and if they turn against him, so will the fans. But he'll try to get a fight with Vitali, who has already started to slow down a lot, and is likely to slow down more between now and the time a fight can be made; and he will then try to claim he's fighting the tougher brother when in reality he'll have cherry picked Vitali because he thinks he has a chance against him because he's slowed down, whereas he knows he has no chance against Wlad.

In any case, if he fights anyone before fighting Vitali, it's far more likely to be Chagaev than Dimitrenko, because Chagaev is his mandatory.

[nomadman]

The most important thing Haye lacks is the ability to nullify a good jab - the Ruiz fight proved that. And if he can't do that he won't be able to land any clean power punches on either Klitschko, unless Vitali slows down a lot, which I suspect is what he's waiting for, and is the real reason he turned down Wlad's 50/50 offer.

Thing is though that Vitali hasn't really used his jab much in recent fights, preferring to use the pawing lead left hook instead. Sosnowski, whom I don't consider to be a particularly good fighter, was able to land a few shots on him, namely the overhand right. Haye could certainly land a few. Whether they'd be enough to have a fight-altering effect I don't know, but with every passing fight Vitali looks more and more vulnerable.

Against Wlad though, I agree, Haye has no chance.

[Dave Rado]

Thing is though that Vitali hasn't really used his jab much in recent fights, preferring to use the pawing lead left hook instead. Sosnowski, whom I don't consider to be a particularly good fighter, was able to land a few shots on him, namely the overhand right. Haye could certainly land a few. Whether they'd be enough to have a fight-altering effect I don't know, but with every passing fight Vitali looks more and more vulnerable.

Against Wlad though, I agree, Haye has no chance.

And I think Haye shares your opinion. But he'll fight Vitali, whom he does have a chance against, and not Wlad; and he will try to convince the gullible British boxing public that he's taken the tougher fight of the two, and the British press will back up that line.

[nomadman]

And I think Haye shares your opinion. But he'll fight Vitali, whom he does have a chance against, and not Wlad; and he will try to convince the gullible British boxing public that he's taken the tougher fight of the two, and the British press will back up that line.

That's exactly what will happen which is why I'd prefer Vitali to turn a fight down with Haye in order that his brother can do the business on him. That's the fight that everyone wants to see and the fight that'd make the most money.