Comments Thread For: Vitali Klitschko: Haye, Not Enough Speed or Power To Win

[ROSS CALIFORNIA]

Haye learned somewhere along the way that he needs to establish himself and fight several times before jumping in there with one of the Klitschko brothers. Because of all his yelling early on, he has made himself look like a coward, But, Haye has said he will jump in there with one of the brothers in 2011. I'm willing to wait and see if he goes through with it before calling him a coward. He made a mistake early on, but we all make mistakes.

[Dave Rado]

to say any fighter can't be knocked down is absurd. everyone is human. BTW vitali was knocked out by a kick to the head in kickboxing a long time ago - look it up.

regardless though, i don't think haye will knock vitali out or even down. but in boxing anything can happen. what saddens me is this dude calls them out relentlessly then fights contenders that aren't even close to the top ten. friggin pathetic.

on comments about klitschkos finding better fighters:
who else would you rather vitali or wladimir fight? i mean, dude... ok here is espns top 10 heavyweights

1. wladimir klitschko
2. vitali klitschko
3. david haye
4. alexander povetkin
5. tomasz adamek
6. nikolai valuev
7. ruslan chagaev
8. eddie chambers
9. tony thompson
10. denis boytsov

ok so those are the only guys that really hold any relevance to this division right now. you could try to argue solis belongs there somewhere, but eh, hes really not that good.

lets analyze this list
david haye - the biggest and clearest duck in possibly the history of the sport
povetkin - trainer says he needs more experience - i guess you could call it a duck, at least hes not calling them out and admits to ducking
adamek - wants klitschkos in 2011 - i guess hes still warming up to heavyweight. a slight duck but can be forgiven if he follows through with his 2011 claims
valuev - absolute idiot who turned down a career high payday against vitali. valuev was coming off of a LOSS. absurd. is out for some sort of surgery now though, hand injury i think?
chagaev - has already been stopped by wladimir
thompson - has already been stopped by wladimir
boytsov - is recovering from some sort of surgery, but i think hes training. i believe i read somewhere that he turned down a fight for one reason or another. can anyone indulge on this one?

regardless, thats the state of the division. everyone has either been whipped, unavailable, or avoiding the fight. vitali fighting briggs is a joke? you know, probably - but who else is there? is fighting solis any better? not really - briggs is just as dangerous as solis is and no one really cares about either fight. they wanna see the bros fight the top guys, top guys dont want it! maybe solis is a little better than briggs, maybe not - but in reality who cares? neither of them pose even a remote threat or spark any interest with anyone.

send the comments toward the other TOP FIGHTERS in the division, thats where they belong. you can BET that when ever haye, adamek, povetkin, valuev want to really fight - that the klitschkos will be right there waiting to take the fight. there is no need to complain about briggs getting the shot before solis does. briggs and solis will both get ktfo, no one cares about either fight - neither fight enhances either bro's legacy. there is not much difference between the fights. commend them for staying active with the level of competition that is available. think of it this way, all of the fighters that are available that aren't in the top ten - name off a few of them. where does briggs place on that list? the guys that you have above briggs - are they really that much more dangerous than he is? do you really care about any of those other fighters more than briggs?

the only meaningful fights at heavyweight are the ones that involve povetkin, valuev, haye, adamek fighting a klitschko. until then, everything else is just stay busy - and equally crappy. express your disdain, but don't send it in the wrong direction.

Best post in this thread.

[manute bol]

haye hits hard and if he gets you with a good shot your going or finished and thats vs anyone except oliver mccall cause no one can knock out mccall.

Not saying haye will beat the klit bros but he has a punchers chance.

[Ogecca MaMa]

so you wanted me to come back and reply to this ? what a watse of time

first off, you got red K because you gave red K, simple as that
you're the one who gave me red K because you ''disapproved'', which is a ******ed action in itself

now, the topic
it is pretty simple, and I didn't change the conversation
I said what I said : Haye is a big puncher, a pure puncher (much better than Vitali in fact) and a good finisher, and if he lands the good punch, and he's pretty accurate at that too, he can put an incoming Vitali on his ass

if you take into consideration the fact that Haye can punch and that he is very fast and a good counterpuncher, and then the fact that Vitali has shown he is slowing down in his last 2 outings (Sosnowski was landing his jab almost at will on Vitali's jaw and he couldn't solve Johnson), then yes, if Haye doesn't fight too cautiously, he can knock Vitali the **** out

btw, Vitali has never been knocked down, but he has been hurt like anybody else (Lewis hurt him numerous times, and Sanders at least once)

you have the right to disagree, but arguing with me on the matter won't make any difference, cause I can tell reading your comments that you're just a little girl getting all wet in front of a Vitali picture

IF? you said he ktfo him easily.. If you can say to kids. dude you basicly cant back up your words.. David haye can ko can do taht.. any boxer can as any other man who can punch. now there is a fact that David fights not better opponents than Vitali.. he fights bums. Vitali fights weak opponetns too, but at least they are on top of rankings. And no need to add soemthing about LEwis or how Vitali get hurt. I know it already. we currently talking about Haye vs Vitali.

David might fight Vitali, before Vit retires, ill bet you all my points, that haye not going to KO him.

and about the girl statement. couldnt be more creative?

[Tiozzo]

IF? you said he ktfo him easily.. If you can say to kids. dude you basicly cant back up your words.. David haye can ko can do taht.. any boxer can as any other man who can punch. now there is a fact that David fights not better opponents than Vitali.. he fights bums. Vitali fights weak opponetns too, but at least they are on top of rankings. And no need to add soemthing about LEwis or how Vitali get hurt. I know it already. we currently talking about Haye vs Vitali.

David might fight Vitali, before Vit retires, ill bet you all my points, that haye not going to KO him.

and about the girl statement. couldnt be more creative?

I said IF because Haye usually fights very aggressively and tries to knock his opponents out

but when he fought Valuev for the title, he was very gunshy, and it is a shame because, as we could see in the 12th round, Haye could have ko'ed Valuev if he had fought in his usual way of fighting

that was my prediction, so was it the prediction of Freddie Roach, but Haye surprised everybody with his gameplan

so what doesn that mean ? even though Haye is back in his usual fighting manner, as we could see when he fought Ruiz, it doesn't mean that Haye won't be fighting Vitali carefully, because the man is a giant just like Valuev, in which case, he would be picking his shots again, and he would probably win a UD, but if Haye fights his normal way and actually tries to knock Vitali out, he can do it

I dont need to be more creative, the girl statement suits the likes of you perfectly

[FloydTBE]

Haye has the speed and power to hurt either Klitschko.

[WladIsTheChamp]

You should be banned from Boxingscene.com for mentioning Klitschkos and Muhammad Ali in the same breath. That has to be the dumbest comment in the history of the sport.

You should get banned for worshipping a fighter like he is a god. Clay would get crushed by either Klitschko - he was having trouble with 177 pounders when he was a solid HW, what would a 245 pound skilled wrecking machine like Wlad do to him?

Keep living in the past. Like I said, it's nice to know how it eats away at haters like you every time Wlad and Vitaly are mentioned as being on par with the greats of the American era of boxing in the 50s and 60s (I say American because the Soviets were not allowed to box pro back then, if they were boxing, you would have the same story as you do today, the pro ranks would have been dominated by the Eastern Europeans). Their legacy and ATG status grows with each win. Even if the two were to retire today, they would still get into the IBHOF.

[WladIsTheChamp]

Haye learned somewhere along the way that he needs to establish himself and fight several times before jumping in there with one of the Klitschko brothers. Because of all his yelling early on, he has made himself look like a coward, But, Haye has said he will jump in there with one of the brothers in 2011. I'm willing to wait and see if he goes through with it before calling him a coward. He made a mistake early on, but we all make mistakes.

So you still believe him? Are you saying he is no longer a liar? He has lied about everything for the past three years; that he wants to fight the best, about his back injury, about slave contracts, about wanting a 50/50, about getting Wembley stadium, about fighting them in 2009, then in 2010, now it's 2011... When are you going to wake up? He also said he will never fight Fraudley and that he will be considered a coward if he does that, Booth said it as well, many times. Now he is fighting Fraudley. Wake up dude, Diva Gaye is a lying vagina.

[WladIsTheChamp]

Rado you don't know boxing. Anyone can be undefeated if they handpick opponents. They are good but not great because neither have beaten any hall of famers. Lewis made a mess out of Vitali's face.. Lewis never cut anybodys face up like that in his whole career. He did that to Vitali in four rounds and that was with a low punch output. That's the only hall of famer he has faced.
Klitschkos are boring that's why they don't make the money Holyfield, Lewis and Tyson did.

You fool, their opposition hasn't been retired long enough to be even considered for the hall of fame, in case you didn't know, you have to be retired for a certain amount of time before being considered. Byrd will be in the IBHOF for sure, as for Vitaly's opponents, Gomez will get in as a CW. IBHOF is very subjective, when you look at the objective rankings of what Vitaly and Wlad has accomplished, such as length of reign, dominance of reign, number of defenses, KO%, rounds lost, W/L ratios of their opponents, in Vitaly's case the record breaking amount of time away from the ring before coming back to get his belt, etc., they both are already top 10 ATGs.

[FloydTBE]

You fool, their opposition hasn't been retired long enough to be even considered for the hall of fame, in case you didn't know, you have to be retired for a certain amount of time before being considered. Byrd will be in the IBHOF for sure, as for Vitaly's opponents, Gomez will get in as a CW. IBHOF is very subjective, when you look at the objective rankings of what Vitaly and Wlad has accomplished, such as length of reign, dominance of reign, number of defenses, KO%, rounds lost, W/L ratios of their opponents, in Vitaly's case the record breaking amount of time away from the ring before coming back to get his belt, etc., they both are already top 10 ATGs.

Most of them have been fighting taxi drivers, tomato cans