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  • #41
    Originally posted by Siggy View Post
    even a "neurology specialist" wouldve kept dirrell for overnight observation after "suffering" from convulsions and complaining about severe pain in the head.
    Well how long do you think this guy was in hospital?

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    • #42
      Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
      Well how long do you think this guy was in hospital?

      i dunno. probably not long enough

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      • #43
        I wish Direll the best, but he has worked himself into a corner on this one. If his Dr. say he's good to fight and he doesn't jump right back into the tourney or fight Ward then he's going to be looked at as a *****, regardless of how serious his condition might have been. I hope his career isn't over, he looked great for most of the AA fight.

        So & then there were 3(i'm not counting Green).

        EDIT; I'm also not surprised that Ward is somehow once again fight in Oakland, ***** move if i've ever seen one.
        Last edited by AllEyesOpen; 10-07-2010, 02:05 PM.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Siggy View Post
          i dunno. probably not long enough
          Come on now. Base it on your experience with seizures........

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Hitman932 View Post
            There was bound to be a bump or two in the road but I dont think anyone envisioned this even in their worst case scenario.

            I guess if I were Dirrell I would be resentful of the fact that I was asked to fight 3 consecutive undefeated opponents while Kessler and Bute think they can just wait around to have a piece of the Super 6 winner.
            Also, if Dirrell were to lose to Ward and Johnson knocked out Green then Johnson would advance over Dirrell and the whole thing would become a joke anyway.
            why would he be resentful ? he beat 2 elite opponents in a row, was robbed of one win though, and now he had the chance to become champion again and to beat the tourney leader

            I believe Dirrell was lucky

            btw, Kessler does deserve a shot at the winner, he has beaten Froch after all and who knows what could have happened if he wasn't forced to pull out

            Bute, on the other hand, deserves the winner too because he was considered the second best SMW in the world befre Ward beat Kessler

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            • #46
              Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
              Come on now. Base it on your experience with seizures........
              like i said, probably not long enough.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
                Come on now. Base it on your experience with seizures........
                The answer is 2½ hours:

                But Brown's words of reassurance came after a stunning, if not frightening, scene Saturday night that led to Brown being taken to a nearby hospital and given a CAT scan. "It was really a blessed outcome given what happened in the ring," Brown's brother, Fred, said. "Everything turned out normal. There was nothing that indicated a need for concern."

                Steven Manekin, a neurosurgeon at ringside who said he is affiliated with the Maryland State Athletic Commission, said, based on "the movement of his extremities" while he was unconscious on the canvas, he believes that Brown suffered a seizure. Manekin said Brown was unconscious "a minute or two" and that the seizure ended in seconds. Brown was administered oxygen in the ring, then was examined by doctors, including Manekin, in the locker room for almost an hour.

                Neither doctors nor Brown's family determined an ambulance was needed, so a friend of Brown's drove him to Doctors Community Hospital in Lanham, accompanied by Brown's wife, Lisa, and Brown's brother. A hospital spokesper son said yesterday she could not confirm that Brown was treated because records of any visit could not be retrieved until today. Fred Brown said his brother remained at the hospital for "about 2 1/2 hours," then returned to the fight headquarters hotel in New Carrollton, where the Browns were staying.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
                  Well how long do you think this guy was in hospital?

                  Honestly there is nothing much you can do for someone who is concussed. It's not like there is medicine for it.

                  Keeping them overnight for observation is a possibility but it's really only done in cases where there are no friends and family who are available to do it themselves.

                  Usually if you are in a city big enough to host a fight you are never more than 5-10 minutes away from a hospital, so there is really no danger in releasing someone to go home with their family when they can easily be returned to the hospital should something come up.

                  I can think of at least a half dozen different cases when I played football in HS and college where somebody suffered a concussion and never spent 1 minute in a hospital or doctor's office.

                  I'm talking about people who were so concussed they were vomiting and telling stories from 10 years ago like they happened yesterday.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Siggy View Post
                    no it would happened to be my handicapped brother who suffers from epilepsy. happy?
                    I didn't twist your arm... not happy no

                    I knew maybe it was better not to make that joke

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                    • #50



                      He doesn't belong in boxing. Far too fragile.

                      Marquez/Vazquez can do back to back to back real fights and this guy is already damaged goods after taking a few serious punches.


                      What kind of ****** bastard is gonna believe this ****?

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