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  • FaustoGeraci
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    #71
    Originally posted by Iceta Lives
    If Williams were to beat Martinez for the Middleweight title and stay put in that division and Pacquiao moved up to try to fight for a ninth divisional title I would rip Pac for not fighting him if Pac went after some random belt holder because it's a safer fight. Regardless if Paul loses to Martinez like I think he may do, Pac shouldn't even waste his time with him. He has to beat Martinez to even be in the conversation and he hasn't done that yet other than the first time by the skin of his teeth.
    Yeah because Clottey and Margarito were on huge win streaks when Manny fought them.

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    • Khalid X
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      #72
      Once again......Manny just fought at 130 two years ago. He is moving up and getting more comfortable at WW. Why do people expect him to fight MW's already?

      With that said, a little over a year ago.....Arum said there is no way in hell that he would make Manny vs Margarito, because Margarito is too big (despite Manny saying he wanted the fight). Before that Arum thought Cotto and guys like Clottey were too big as well.

      The thing is Manny is slowly proving himself more and more and Arum hit the nail on the head when he said, "Lets see how he does against Margarito first".

      This was the same stance he had after the Hatton fight...then after the Cotto fight and so on and so on.

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        #73
        Originally posted by -Top Rank-
        Once again......Manny just fought at 130 two years ago. He is moving up and getting more comfortable at WW. Why do people expect him to fight MW's already?

        With that said, a little over a year ago.....Arum said there is no way in hell that he would make Manny vs Margarito, because Margarito is too big (despite Manny saying he wanted the fight). Before that Arum thought Cotto and guys like Clottey were too big as well.

        The thing is Manny is slowly proving himself more and more and Arum hit the nail on the head when he said, "Lets see how he does against Margarito first".

        This was the same stance he had after the Hatton fight...then after the Cotto fight and so on and so on.
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        If Manny easily beats the huge, aggressive Margarito then Williams will be more feasible.

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          #74
          its ****ing amazing to me how some people do not know how to let go of a subject.

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            #75
            Ya in the fight Manny Pacquiao can only hit around Paul Williams chest just a small bit above the belt line..... Great fight.

            Being honest, Paul Williams is no longer impressive to me. Ever since he fought Martinez, he seems to continue on the decline. I'd say Kermit Cintron was winning the fight until he jump off the ropes.

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              #76
              In boxing, it's not about height. It's about weight. And Pac screwed himself over by fighting at 150 against Marquez. Watch, if he and Williams ever even come close to talking, there going to ask for 147 or lower.

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                #77
                Originally posted by JDezi4
                In boxing, it's not about height. It's about weight. And Pac screwed himself over by fighting at 150 against Marquez. Watch, if he and Williams ever even come close to talking, there going to ask for 147 or lower.
                I agree (except with the Marquez part ). Pacquiao-Williams will be for Pac's 147 crown.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by -Top Rank-
                  Once again......Manny just fought at 130 two years ago. He is moving up and getting more comfortable at WW. Why do people expect him to fight MW's already?

                  With that said, a little over a year ago.....Arum said there is no way in hell that he would make Manny vs Margarito, because Margarito is too big (despite Manny saying he wanted the fight). Before that Arum thought Cotto and guys like Clottey were too big as well.

                  The thing is Manny is slowly proving himself more and more and Arum hit the nail on the head when he said, "Lets see how he does against Margarito first".

                  This was the same stance he had after the Hatton fight...then after the Cotto fight and so on and so on.

                  I've said the same ... Manny's team will see how he does against Margo then decide what to do next as far as fighting bigger guys (or not).... plus they always have that expectation to fight Floyd if that opportunity presents itself.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Poochiao
                    I agree this fight should happen or Manny needs to fight Martinez instead of fighting TR fighters.

                    Williams has a slim chance of beating Manny when she gets schooled by guys like Cintron and Quintana.
                    Cintron only "schooled" him for 3 and a half rounds though. That really means nothing. Nothing at all.

                    In 3 and a half rounds Judah would be a HOF'er,

                    In 3 and a half rounds Floyd would have a couple losses,

                    In 3 and a half rounds Cotto schooled Margarito.

                    3 and a half rounds is not a whole fight. So 3 and a half rounds prove absolutely nothing.

                    Then look at the Quintana rematch. Plus both Quintana and Cintron are signifacantly bigger than Pac. Sooner or later size will play an issue. Even though P-Will don't fight tall as in range and uses the jab. He fights in your range he is still around 6'4. Unless he bends all the way down to 5'6 I see him with his size, wingspan, and workrate giving Pac hell. I honestly think he beats Pac.

                    There is no more excuses for that fight not happening.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by jrosales13
                      Cintron only "schooled" him for 3 and a half rounds though. That really means nothing. Nothing at all.

                      In 3 and a half rounds Judah would be a HOF'er,

                      In 3 and a half rounds Floyd would have a couple losses,

                      In 3 and a half rounds Cotto schooled Margarito.

                      3 and a half rounds is not a whole fight. So 3 and a half rounds prove absolutely nothing.

                      Then look at the Quintana rematch. Plus both Quintana and Cintron are signifacantly bigger than Pac. Sooner or later size will play an issue. Even though P-Will don't fight tall as in range and uses the jab. He fights in your range he is still around 6'4. Unless he bends all the way down to 5'6 I see him with his size, wingspan, and workrate giving Pac hell. I honestly think he beats Pac.

                      There is no more excuses for that fight not happening.
                      The thing with Pac is that I do believe he loves the challenge and to test his limits. And I do believe that he really does like to give fans a good show. Pac has nothing to lose really but alot to gain - respect. I really wouldn't be surprised if Pac fights Williams, Pac loves a war. Paul could be a great retirement fight for Pac if the Floyd fight doesn't fall through. Win or lose against Paul, as long as Pac performs like a warrior, you won't help but give the guy mad props.

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