Do you think Paul Williams will try to box Martinez this time around?

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  • ChampBox@PR
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    #31
    Originally posted by QUELOQUE
    If he is, it will be as if he is ceding those rounds. Martinez will undoubtedly land the cleaner shots.

    If he does that the 1st 4 rounds to turn it up in the last 8, it could work, but he can't let Martinez land body punches early.

    Martinez landed body shots for the first 4 rounds against Pavlik and left him with nothing in the gas tank for the final 4. If Sergio can take away Paul's stamina and speed through body shots, Paul is getting stopped.

    If he can't pressure and fight hard (while eating hard shots) for 12 rounds. His best shot is to put pressure and find his range for the first 3rd and try to turn it up after that. It's basically what happened in the first fight anyway (he still lost that though).
    This is exactly how I feel about this fight

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    • Bastian Loc
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      #32
      Paul Williams can't box and when he tries to he's really bad at it. His best bet is to make the fight a meatgrinder and hope he gets lucky. That's the only shot I'm giving him.


      Trying to outbox Martinez would be like a human trying to out swim a shark in open ocean.

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      • bojangles1987
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        #33
        If he does, he will get embarrassed. What worked for Paul in the first fight is that he just was able to keep fighting when Sergio needed a break. He can't back off in one round or Martinez will bank enough rounds to win.

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        • IMDAZED
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          #34
          Williams will do what he did during the last eight rounds of the first fight - walk Martinez down behind double and triple jabs and work. He won most of those stanzas doing just that. However, Martinez is going to be coming in stronger now and that's probably what he's working on in the gym. That and endurance. The speed and movement is already there. I think Williams is going to show everyone the hunger of a fighter who was passed over by nearly everyone at welter and avoided like the plague by the middleweight champion. Will his chin match his heart? That remains to be seen.

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          • Pullcounter
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            #35
            Originally posted by FaustoGeraci
            Yeah it's not like he OUTBOXED Winky Wright or a prime Margarito. Do you watch boxing or just pretend?
            lols... Now I know you don't watch boxing. pwill has never outboxed anyone in his entire career.

            pwill outworked winky, he didn't outbox him. winky got stuck in his turtle shell because pwill was windmilling a zillion punches.

            pwill also outworked margarito, he didn't outbox him. margarito is a slow starter and pwill stole a bunch of the early rounds by windmilling a zillion punches and hanging on in the 10th and 11th and rallying in the 12th.

            pwill couldn't outbox anyone if his life depended on it.

            go watch some pwill fights before you comment on them.

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            • FaustoGeraci
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              #36
              Originally posted by Pullcounter
              lols... Now I know you don't watch boxing. pwill has never outboxed anyone in his entire career.

              pwill outworked winky, he didn't outbox him. winky got stuck in his turtle shell because pwill was windmilling a zillion punches.

              pwill also outworked margarito, he didn't outbox him. margarito is a slow starter and pwill stole a bunch of the early rounds by windmilling a zillion punches and hanging on in the 10th and 11th and rallying in the 12th.

              pwill couldn't outbox anyone if his life depended on it.

              go watch some pwill fights before you comment on them.
              Maybe you should stop obsessing over models and download some fights. Paul OUTBOXED Winky and Margarito with ANGLES AND FOOTWORK. Do you even know what boxing is? Sure he was throwing 100 punches a round. But he was doing it from unorthodox angles thanks to his reach and movng before he could be countered. WHICH WINKY SAID HIMSELF. "He threw a lot of punches from unusual angles and kept stepping off before I could counter.". THAT IS THE DEFINITON OF BOXING.

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              • KRITKL
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                #37
                It's a mistake for him to try and box. He was getting out boxed by Cintron for god sake. He needs to apply pressure from behind his jab, not letting Sergio get into his rhythm. What I learned from watching Paul's last 2 fights is he ain't as good as I thought and Winky should retire.

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                • Pullcounter
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by FaustoGeraci
                  Maybe you should stop obsessing over models and download some fights. Paul OUTBOXED Winky and Margarito with ANGLES AND FOOTWORK. Do you even know what boxing is? Sure he was throwing 100 punches a round. But he was doing it from unorthodox angles thanks to his reach and movng before he could be countered. WHICH WINKY SAID HIMSELF. "He threw a lot of punches from unusual angles and kept stepping off before I could counter.". THAT IS THE DEFINITON OF BOXING.
                  damn you don't know **** about boxing. how about actually watching the fight and not just parroting what winky said.

                  of course pwill has unorthodox angles.. he's a southpaw! that's not a skill, that's just his stance.

                  of course winky can't counter pwill, winky can't counter if he's stuck in his turtle shell defense! throwing a zillion punches a round isn't a skill, it's a feat of conditioning and stamina.

                  pwill don't know how to use his southpaw angles, or reach to it's maximum advantage. pwill don't know how to use his southpaw angles to catch opponents with shots they don't see coming. all he does is windmill punches. pwill don't even use his height and reach to his advantage. he don't fight tall or even use his jab to maintain distance. all he does is rush in windmilling punches.

                  I ain't saying pwill isn't a good fighter, he is because he is blessed with a lot of good physical attributes, such as being a lefty, having the height and reach of a HW, and great conditioning and stamina. But to attribute these physical attributes to boxing skill is assinine.

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                  • FaustoGeraci
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                    #39
                    Yeah. Paul had angles because he's a southpaw. I forgot Winky was orthodox....

                    You're a fool and I'm done conversating with a guy that can't comprehend what he's watching and clearly has never trained in his life.

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                    • Pullcounter
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by FaustoGeraci
                      Yeah. Paul had angles because he's a southpaw. I forgot Winky was orthodox....

                      You're a fool and I'm done conversating with a guy that can't comprehend what he's watching and clearly has never trained in his life.
                      lols... actually watch the pwill/winky and pwill/margs fights before you comment on them. k thanks bye.

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