One Reason why I think Floyd beats PacMan easily.

[TheRealTruth321]

WTF is going on here... Billy Agnes your a f0cking a hole mate... allow the racist **** dude. (sits back and awaits the insults coming my way).

The guys allowed his opinion same as the rest of us.

Back to the topic. I'm a big fan of Floyd but I honestly think this tactic would get him KTFO. If he played it safe, I could see him getting to ****y with Pac missing, and get over complacent (spell?) and in the 11th or 12th I can see him dropping his hands low and getting caught and KTFO after dominating manny for 10 rounds. (not a bad thing as then we could get a rematch!).

I can personally see Floyd attacking Pac, trying to keep it an inside fight and chasing Pac around the ring (I might get shot down in flames for this).

I've noticed Manny tries to counter straight rights with a big left hook type punch, I can see Floyd doing what he did to Judah (not that Zab is on Pacs level). I can see Floyd throwing a quick straight right, when Pac goes to counter with a Left hook/Cross, Floyd will duck under this, pounding Mannys body at the same time before turning Pac in the centre of the ring. (he did a similar thing to Zab, some clever sod posted a Vid on youtube of this.. very smart). Trouble with this tactic is Floyd will always be at risk of getting caught with a sneeky uppercut just like the one that sent Miguel to the floor the 1st or 2nd time possibly. I keep seeming to picture Floyd making Manny look like an amature but then getting ****y and getting caught late in the fight and being put to sleep. I do think Floyd is slowing down a tad with his Feet, but his legs are not GONE like Roach states, he merely didnt use them against Shane as he wanted to stand and fight to prove he can.

Sorry for the long post guys.

[TheRealTruth321]

To add to that, by inside fighting I mean rough housing, abit like the Hatton fight. Everyone thaught Hatton would make it rough and kill Floyd, but Floyd did it to Hatton, which was very unexpected IMO and caught Ricky off gaurd as he was not prepared for this at all. Hatton was supposed to Kill Floyd with body shots and TBH I cant remember a single decent one he landed. (not that it matters, im from England and also a huge fan of Hatton.)

[FloydTBE]

Floyd by UD

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Floyd may have some issues dealing with Manny's speed, southpaw stance and his masterful ability to "turn" his opponents. Does anyone remember all the problems Floyd had with Zab Judah? Granted...Floyd adjusted, but I don't think he's going to have that much time against Manny to do th same thing. Manny's endurance/stamina/power of late has been off the charts. I just don't see Floyd cruising to a easy victory over Manny. If Floyd does win (and that's a BIG "IF"), it's going to be split decision and he's going have the war wounds to show for it.

[mathed]

Floyd would end up landing 2 meaningful punches per round while being in a constant state of shoulder roll. He will be completely defensive just as Clottey was and likely land the same amount of punches as well....a UD alright but Floyd won't be the one getting it though.

[Pin Galarga]

True story. People don't realize it was Marquez TIMING and ACCURACY that gave him success manny. Make things faster, hit harder, have better defense, lighting fast reflexes, and near perfect balance then you have Floyd.

I have to agree with you. TIMING is Floyds biggest tool and the reason why He hasn't loss one fight in his carrier.

Both fighter's fans go back and forward with they arguements, but I never hear them talking about TIMING.
Good post.

[PainKiller]

I have to agree with you. TIMING is Floyds biggest tool and the reason why He hasn't loss one fight in his carrier.

Both fighter's fans go back and forward with they arguements, but I never hear them talking about TIMING.
Good post.

There's a thread that people comapred all aspects of [Pac and Floyd like offense, defense timing, speed, chin etc... I can't find it but timing was mentioned.

I believe that Floyd is physically gifted with a lot. He does have the best defence but it would be impossible to do without his physical attributes.

The first thing are his eyes for me. He sees almsot everything and has wide eyes and watches so well. He does look at video's of fighters and kind of knows what they are going to do. I use to play poker a lot and you get this by reading players. A little movement could give it away.

The second thing is his reflex. He has fast twitch muscles, it's in his genes I guess to soem extent.

The third is his training. He really is a beast in training and is fit as anyone.

Then his speed and long reach for his height. He uses his body very well and his long arms are great for pot shotting.

His legs are fast and fluid.

His style is ideal because people walk into his punchers.

Then his mentality, he chats a lot of **** that gets to people.

His trainers are great trainers too.

He has a lot of great things to be a boxer. He is great, but it is better to challenge your own greatness by challenging other greats.

[JDezi4]

I pretty much agree. Not necessarily becuz Marquez did, but just becuz I know what Floyd can do and I know what Manny can do, and I did the math. Floyd's style is superior. The only stile that can give Floyd trouble is that of a conventional boxer. Fundamentally sound. Pacquiao lacks lots of fundamentals, for example, NO JAB. He can't counterpunch. His style is based purely off of him being faster and more powerful than his opponents. Similar to Mosley in his prime, he comes in, throws a fast combination, than he moves out. Floyd is faster (as said by multiple sparring partners). Floyd has longer arms. Right there those 2 advantages can almost just about neutralise Pac's style right there. Than we take into mind he's also basically mastered the main fundamental of boxing, hit and do not be hit. We'll just stick a jab from a safe distance, and probably won't bother too much with the right hand if he's smart, which he is (at least in the ring).

[Zizou3]

ZiZou where are your pics at homegirl? I aint got nothing to be afraid of. All I did was give my opinion and I respect everyone elses who Disagree with me. Thats what makes this fight so intriguing. People Who believe manny will win have every right to do so. I'm not gonna hate and I understand why they Believe it. Manny is an ATG win or Lose. But just because I think Floyd would win doesnt mean u had to come at me personally. Now if ur so much better then me, Prove it.

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buawhawhahhawhaw PWNED I don't need to post my pic on here and flaunt to other guys like you are you shameless, degenerate prick..buwhahwhaw PWNED you are a poser and a fake......wow.....you have pictures taken in a club.....you look ****** with your ***git facial hair homie and those whores are easy-lay ready made hookers.....you aint no hot shot you rican loser...............bawawhauwhauwhawaw Let me lick your pretty pink ****. ............Pacman destroyed your idol Cotto and Margarito destroyed him even more PWEND with wit.

[Zizou3]

WTF is going on here... Billy Agnes your a f0cking a hole mate... allow the racist **** dude. (sits back and awaits the insults coming my way).

The guys allowed his opinion same as the rest of us.

Back to the topic. I'm a big fan of Floyd but I honestly think this tactic would get him KTFO. If he played it safe, I could see him getting to ****y with Pac missing, and get over complacent (spell?) and in the 11th or 12th I can see him dropping his hands low and getting caught and KTFO after dominating manny for 10 rounds. (not a bad thing as then we could get a rematch!).

I can personally see Floyd attacking Pac, trying to keep it an inside fight and chasing Pac around the ring (I might get shot down in flames for this).

I've noticed Manny tries to counter straight rights with a big left hook type punch, I can see Floyd doing what he did to Judah (not that Zab is on Pacs level). I can see Floyd throwing a quick straight right, when Pac goes to counter with a Left hook/Cross, Floyd will duck under this, pounding Mannys body at the same time before turning Pac in the centre of the ring. (he did a similar thing to Zab, some clever sod posted a Vid on youtube of this.. very smart). Trouble with this tactic is Floyd will always be at risk of getting caught with a sneeky uppercut just like the one that sent Miguel to the floor the 1st or 2nd time possibly. I keep seeming to picture Floyd making Manny look like an amature but then getting ****y and getting caught late in the fight and being put to sleep. I do think Floyd is slowing down a tad with his Feet, but his legs are not GONE like Roach states, he merely didnt use them against Shane as he wanted to stand and fight to prove he can.

Sorry for the long post guys.

racist??? buawhahwahhahhwhaw WTF you talking bout homie........you need to check yoself before you wreck yoself DAMN it rubs the lotion on its skin............I was just putting this Rican ***** in his place thinking he's some bigshot posting his pictures on a boxing site trying to act cool..............PWNED Let me lick your pretty pink ****. .............what a sad little man...........PWNED Give it to Billy......hehhhehe............ Agnes, It's Billy! Don't tell what we did!