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  • simeraksou
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    Jones by easy UD Tarver + POLL

    Jones is already looking in magnificent shape, has fought a substantial number of south paws in his career and need only avoid Tarver's left hand.

    How many pro fights has Jones gone in where he is the betting underdog? This may be only the second (Toney being the first). I remember Jones entering fights where he was 20-40:1 favourite. No other fighter in recent memory can do that, especially not on a consistent basis. Not even Mayweather when he fought the infinitely less talented Gatti could do those numbers... it was only a little while ago that Jones was considered invincible against any opponent, in particular after he soundly defeated Ruiz--before the fight occured, it was pretty much a toss up with people divided on who would win but Jones outclassed. Y'ALL MUSTA FORGOT!!

    (especially the unreasonable Jones haters who claim he fought nobodies and yet claim that michelewski and a few other inferior talents fought the best and even if Jones had defeated King Kong during his career the Jones haters will make up some excuse like King Kong couldn't see Jones cuz he was too small)

    POLL: why do some people refuse to acknowledge Jones' achievements yet magnify the achievements of lesser fighters?
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    Jones destroyed and humiliated their favourite fighters such as Vinny Pazienza
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    Jones isn't a human punching bag like Gatti and didn't satisfy their bloodlust
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    They secretly respect Jones' talent and achievements, but deny it publicly
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    They have a legitimate reason e.g. Jones was too involved in fight negotiations
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    They lack the mental capacity of objective analysis
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    They hold Jones to a higher standard than other fighters
    30.43%
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  • Truth
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    #2
    Originally posted by simeraksou
    Jones is already looking in magnificent shape, has fought a substantial number of south paws in his career and need only avoid Tarver's left hand.

    How many pro fights has Jones gone in where he is the betting underdog? This may be only the second (Toney being the first). I remember Jones entering fights where he was 20-40:1 favourite. No other fighter in recent memory can do that, especially not on a consistent basis. Not even Mayweather when he fought the infinitely less talented Gatti could do those numbers... it was only a little while ago that Jones was considered invincible against any opponent, in particular after he soundly defeated Ruiz--before the fight occured, it was pretty much a toss up with people divided on who would win but Jones outclassed. Y'ALL MUSTA FORGOT!!

    (especially the unreasonable Jones haters who claim he fought nobodies and yet claim that michelewski and a few other inferior talents fought the best and even if Jones had defeated King Kong during his career the Jones haters will make up some excuse like King Kong couldn't see Jones cuz he was too small)

    POLL: why do some people refuse to acknowledge Jones' achievements yet magnify the achievements of lesser fighters?
    People love to dig deep into great careers and make excuses why they wern't great. Roy won title in 4 weight classes and is an unreal athlete who has legitmatley beaten both James Toney and Bernard Hopkins. He is great...

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    • zabkillsspinks
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      #3
      Originally posted by THE TRUTH
      People love to dig deep into great careers and make excuses why they wern't great. Roy won title in 4 weight classes and is an unreal athlete who has legitmatley beaten both James Toney and Bernard Hopkins. He is great...
      "oh well jones wouldnt go to germany to fight micheal****ki and he ducked steve collins, nigel benn, gerald mcclellan, and chrsi eubank cause obviously they would have knocked him out easily." thats the kind of gayness **** say about jones, all of them were good exceot collins and michal****ki but come on people none of thme could have lasted with jones. jones would have ripped them all apart easily. anyway i think its mainly because jones looks so impressive against everyone he fights that people got to the point of overlooking the fact of how good they really were and just were noticing how bad he made them look because hes that ****ing good. they started saying **** like "he only fights bums" which couldnt have been further from the truth he just made them look like **** cause hes so much better, thats how damn good he is.

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      • jack_the_rippuh
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        #4
        I think this is the reason why haters hate Jones.

        When a fight what should happen between two top fighters of a division falls through the roof. The promotor(s) of the fighter(s) are usually to blame...but with Roy Jones Jr. he was his own boss, he managed his own career, etc. Many people who dislike Jones hold him to a high standard, because he was so talented. They wanted to see him fight the best fighters divisions had to offer just like great boxers before him have done (Ray Leonard, Roberto Duran, Pernell Whitaker, etc.) Because the majority of those fights would have to most likely take place overseas, and Jones doesn't like fighting overseas, they didn't happen. As far as the fight what fell apart in the U.S. I guess a deal with money couldn't be negotiated. The bottomline in the eyes of many is that Jones' talent should have lead him to taking more risk. The sad thing is that Roy Jones Jr., who managed his own career, could have done just that - because that's the thing - he managed his own career.

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        • DiegoFuego
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          #5
          I think Roy isn't nearly as great as anyone makes him out to be, but you can't say he ducked fighters like DM because they were and remain nobodies.

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          • Truth
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            #6
            Originally posted by finesse
            is that Jones' talent should have lead him to taking more risk. The sad thing is that Roy Jones Jr., who managed his own career, could have done just that - because that's the thing - he managed his own career.
            Well then the haters should be happy come October 1st because RJ is taking a risk.

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            • zabkillsspinks
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              #7
              Originally posted by THE TRUTH
              Well then the haters should be happy come October 1st because RJ is taking a risk.
              oh yeah but now hes just being ******. haters are hilarious all this **** for 10+ years about him never taking risks, and now he takes a fight against the best light heavyweight after consecutive KO losses and shows tremendous heart by doing this and is taking a huge risk and instead of them giving him credit all they have to say is "bad move for jones, his ego is to big, hes ****** for taking this fight". SUCK MY ****ING **** ******S YOUR ALL SUCH DAMN HYPOCRITES. Jones is gonna kill tarver on october 1 and all you damn haters will choke on your idiotic words.

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              • simeraksou
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                #8
                Originally posted by zabkillsspinks
                oh yeah but now hes just being ******. haters are hilarious all this **** for 10+ years about him never taking risks, and now he takes a fight against the best light heavyweight after consecutive KO losses and shows tremendous heart by doing this and is taking a huge risk and instead of them giving him credit all they have to say is "bad move for jones, his ego is to big, hes ****** for taking this fight". SUCK MY ****ING **** ******S YOUR ALL SUCH DAMN HYPOCRITES. Jones is gonna kill tarver on october 1 and all you damn haters will choke on your idiotic words.
                I can't wait for the fight..

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                • jack_the_rippuh
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                  #9
                  Question.
                  Why do people say Roy Jones' body looked horrible for the Glen Johnson fight when simeraksou's avatar (which is the weigh in pic taken before the Johnson fight) he looks perfectly fine.

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                  • Tarver is my dad
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by finesse
                    Question.
                    Why do people say Roy Jones' body looked horrible for the Glen Johnson fight when simeraksou's avatar (which is the weigh in pic taken before the Johnson fight) he looks perfectly fine.
                    see the fight again, and see if thats the body that showed up at fight night...

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