Wladimir hits way harder then Tyson. But I'd rather face Wladimir then prime Tyson.
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Originally posted by RossCA View PostNo way in hell Wlad could ever deal with the pressure Tyson and Frazier would have put on him.
Chances are that Wladimir wouldn't have had to have dealt with any pressure from Frazier.Considering his history of ducking punchers,it's highly unlikely that Cherry Pickin' Joe would have ever stepped in the ring with a puncher of Wladimir's calibre.
But let's say Frazier did step up: how is he going to take Wlad's punches? Frazier had a weak chin and never proved he could absorb the blow of a real puncher like Wladimir? Wlad is much stronger than Frazier,and could easily tie him up if he were to get up close.
Tyson is alot tougher and has a much greater chin than Frazier,and a fight with him and Wlad would require alot of thinking.I don't see this as some type of blowout for Tyson because I know of Wlad's strengths and I know that he is a threat to any heavyweight whoever lived
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Its not arguable that Wlad has certain punches harder than Tyson's. Its hard to be like one is a harder puncher, because I feel that Wlad's jab and right cross were far superior to Tysons, but Tyson's hooks were better than Wlad's. It has to deal with how you throw the intended punch.
That being said I would much rather face Tyson. I mean you will lose to both, but Tyson got people out of there quick. He was the MMA version of boxing. MMA-trolls all say MMA is safer because the gloves are smaller sot here arent the amount of repeated blows which tend to cause massive brain damage. They pretty much are talking about Wlad. Look at his opponents. They dont just go down at the end of fights and cant beat the 10 count, they dont get up and have wobbly legs, they are hanging over the bottom rope dead. Eddie Chambers is dead. The press is just covering it up. Wlad killed him in the ring. In a month theyll blame it all on an ex or suicide, but the guys dead.
So with Tyson I know I will get out in one round, with Wlad, he likes to punish all of his opponents. Some say its being safe, I really feel like he gets enjoyment out of punching guys in the face over and over again. He finishes fights when he wants to.
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Originally posted by THE NAMELESS View Postwell i think he is right on the spot. klitschko brothers are strong.but i doubt they can beat tyson or other legendry fighter.
in power when tyson was at his peak i dont know who is the harder hitter but in a fight wlad will win easy
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Wlad's straight punches are much more devastating. Tyson's hooks and uppercuts were far superior to Wlad's. And to be honest, I don't think we eve know exactly how hard Wlad can punch, because he so rarely lets his hands go. So I'll give to to Tyson by default. More first round KO's, and more devastating KO's. Tyson takes it, but not by much, because Wlad has some SERIOUS punching power as well. It's just mainly straight punches though. He needs to incorporate his left hook more, because that punch is crazy.
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Of course wlad hits way harder. It's all about leverage. Tyson was a 5'11 ball of muscle. He was quick and could pack some power in his punches. But strong, tall and lanky guys like foreman and wlad hit much much harder. It's basic physics.
Wlad would probably K.Oa prime tyson in under 5 rounds. He's too tall and the jab would destroy tysons defense.
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Originally posted by boxasmash View PostWlad hits much harder than Tyson.
/End of thread.
Then, in lieu of some actual analysis, boxasmash plumps for the European boxer just for the sake of it.
Your word isn't credible enough to end any thread, sorry.
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Originally posted by have_not View PostFrom a interview with emanul steward talking about punching power: His views on Klitschko going forward:
“I think based on this performance here and his own conversations with me in the recent days that he realizes that he is actually too reluctant, too intelligent, too technical—that I think you’re going to see a much more aggressive fighter in Wladimir. If this man actually would just operate with close to 80%—he’s only operating with about 60%—he would be the most devastating heavyweight in the history of boxing because I’ve worked with him. Never, ever, ever have I been involved with a fighter who has so much one punch punching power. Even guys that knock somebody out—they get them hurt, they knock them down, they get them groggy—Wladimir is the only fighter I’ve ever worked with that everything can be normal like a big party—everybody is having champagne, on the floors, in the tuxedos, with the music—and the lights go off completely at one time. I mean it’s not like a gradual dimmer switch. I never saw anyone who knocked out people in a gym when they block punches and he did that about three weeks ago with a sparring partner—two weeks ago, prior to the fight. With a sparring partner he threw a left hook, the sparring partner blocked the punch and with twenty ounce gloves he was still knocked out. He has unbelievable one punch punching power and that’s why maybe he doesn’t put combinations together because he punches so effectively and with so much power with one punch, but his handicap and problem is he feints too much. He wants everything to be perfect—perfect balance, perfect this, and the last round he was a little overly aggressive, got out of position a few times, but to go three minutes with a guy with his power is like a lifetime because even if he just grazes you with a punch, you’re going to be hurt.”
His views on Wladimir’s punching power:
“What makes him really special also is he has so much power in the late rounds. A lot of guys, great punchers like (Mike) Tyson, they were great in the early rounds but very seldom in the late rounds. Wladimir has knocked out guys like he did with Chris Byrd, and (Ray) Austin, and Eliseo Castillo—he knocked those guys out early because he threw a punch early, an early power punch. And then he’s had the power to go out after being down three times with Sam Peter and he had him out on his feet in the twelfth round of a very grueling fight with one single punch, a left hook. Then he knocked out Thompson. With Tony Thompson he ran across the ring and threw one straight right hand in the eleventh round and just walked away, and Thompson went down totally finished. Now he knocks out this guy in the twelfth round with ten or twelve seconds left with one punch. To have a fighter that has that kind of devastating one punch clean knockout power is so much stress on the opponent because you’re never safe.”
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anyone who says wlad is a harder puncher then tyson is a ******ed klit hugger who only watches the fat slop heavyweight division of today only.
tyson was one of the most demonic punchers in the sports history.
wlad & vitali are fighting fat slops so it's easy to have a high ko %
it's a DISGRACE to claim wlad has better punching power compared to a demon like tyson. actually......it's a hilarious.
prime 88 tyson knocks out wlad. a wlad jab will NOT be enough to stop a 88 tyson. tyson would bob & weave wlads jab while walking forward throwing murderess punches & applying sick pressure.
i remember when tyson took the legs & air right out of prime holyfield with a body shot to the ribs.
the body flurry starts @ 4:27
Last edited by americanbot; 10-04-2010, 02:36 PM.
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