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"the American is a class above"?
Not so sure about that, AA, just two very different styles.
However, that statement probably could be applied to the bout AA will have with Andre Ward after AA finishes of Froch, and Ward does the same to Dirrell.
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To beat Pacquiao is simple. Defense & counter punching. Pac
proved that he is too fast to try to bully him and put pressure.
Patience and effective counter punching works. Clottey was
clocking Pac ****ing his face up but didn't commit to fighting
but rather surviving.
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Originally posted by indystress View Postwould floyd be able to keep up with pacs punch output activity? floyd throws less than 500 punches per fight...pac averages in the 1000's...if felony fraud goes on a defense, pac will throw alot and land a few that would hurt fraud...and i could see fraud hitting pac the way clottey did, which was far and in between..not enough would land to win against pacs constant output.
that wild high punch rate sh#t won't work against Mayweather, you can get into the ring and THINK you are going to be able to do what usually works against SLOW, Flat Footed, One-Dimensional fighters but you will be in for a LONG NIGHT
it is easy to use a high work rate against a flat footed fighter that stand in front of you the entire fight (which lets be honest, that is mostly what Manny been going up against since moving up), it is extremely hard to maintain the high work rate against a Moving Target, Mayweather can stay outside and make Manny miss all night and pick him off, as good as Manny is his major weakness is his defense...he is not hard to hit, even slower guys like Clottey had no problem landing punches on him when he actually did let his hands go, now you go against a guy with amazing Speed and Footwork and ridiculous punching accuracy against a guy who leaves himself open A LOT...to me from a stylistic stand point it is a HORRIBLE match up for Pacman, his only hope is the land something big and KO Mayweather and he would have to do it EARLY in the fight because he can't out-box him and once Mayweather makes his adjustments then it is a 12 round BOXING CLINIC and Pacman fans crying about "Mayweather is running because Manny can't land anything"
just like the fight against JMM I think Mayweather stays OUTSIDE the entire fight and just picks him apart and frustrates him to the point were he just starts lunging forward trying to land ANY TYPE of Power Punch leaving himself open even more
to beat Mayweather...well to at least give him a good fight, you have to be a SMART FIGHTER, you can't try to beat him with just your Physical Ability, you have to BOX with him, a consistent JAB, attack the body and be VERY Unpredictable THE ENTIRE FIGHT
but regardless this debate is USELESS if they don't actually fight
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Originally posted by domiven7 View Postwhy do we forget? mayweather has face people just as fast as pac. zab judah, mosley. and marques are just as fast as pac and mayweather beat them. emanuel burton was just as fast and slick, mayweather beat the hell out of him.
JMM is overrated. if it wasnt because of the 2 close fights against Manny he wouldnt even be in a conversation of one of the best boxers today. if Manny wasnt as good or i mean DAMN good as he is today Marquez wouldnt even be mentioned as much in any boxing forum.
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Originally posted by GRUSTLER View PostTo beat Pacquiao is simple. Defense & counter punching. Pac
proved that he is too fast to try to bully him and put pressure.
Patience and effective counter punching works. Clottey was
clocking Pac ****ing his face up but didn't commit to fighting
but rather surviving.
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Originally posted by scr4vey View Postlol if Pacquiao wins it will most likely be TKO, Mayweather will command the fight like he always does and he's going to make Pac think twice before coming in.
you guys always say he will beat Manny easy, one sided fight, too skilled, bigger, better handspeed, superior defence blah blah blah! why not fight him? obviously Floyd doesnt share the same view as Abraham and the *****s.
if u have those advantages you *****s and haters keep mentioning it means it should be A WALK IN A PARK right? like its not even close right? why not stop all the B.S. and fight him? he would be making at least $40 million plus an EASY WIN? so what do you think his excuse?
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I'd picture the fight going the way of Pacquiao/Morales 1. Except Floyd wins by an even wider margin. Just look what Floyd did to Marquez and Mosley in his last two fights. Pacquiao might win some rounds, but I picture a clear-cut Floyd UD. Floyd just has too much boxing savvy to lose to Pacquiao.
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[QUOTE][Zab Judah, Mosley and JMM were not as fast as Pacquiao. but probably ur kidding right? you forgot to mention though, Manny was a 3 time Fighter of the Year and a Fighter of a Decade which no one you mentioned ever won it. and they were not P4P King right right now? so if you seriously comparing Manny Pacquiao to Judah, Mosley and Marquez u already lost the argument. Manny is way better than those 3 when Floyd fought them. i dont care if JMM had 2 close fights against Manny but we all know Manny's best weight is around 140 -145 lbs and JMM's best weight is around 130-134 lbs. /QUOTE]
.... SMH ..... ^ herb. Judah is way faster than Pacquiao and Mosley is close. Mayweather is faster than all 4 of them anyway. The point is its easy to look like you got handspeed when u stand in front of cotto, morales, and all the rest of the hispanic encyclopedia Manny has fought (no offense, im also hispanic). I just know that Mayweather, Berto, Judah, Bradley, Alexander, Mosley are Manny's worst nightmare with all that handspeed!
Even Manny said prior to the cotto fight, "speed kills and conquers all". He always wants to be the faster fighter and control opponents' weights... Fight at the official weight classes. Until Floyd is proven wrong, he is still #1.
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First thing is to give Floyd a pen and sign a contract to fight Manny Pacquiao before anybody can talk of beating the Pacman. By now everybody knows that chicken Floyd needs a phsychiatrist to explain to him that there is no such thing as A-side meth that his uncle Roger (trainer) has been talking about. It is just an excuse to prevent the fight with the Pacman to take place. Floyd needs to be ballsy to fight Manny Pacquiao.
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