Comments Thread For: Mayweather-Pacquiao; Drug Testing No Longer an Issue

[Vasyl’s dad]

fernando vargas was 4-0! After the hoya loss with 2 ko's but that doesnt mean he wasnt already damaged
as we found out he was

How does one go 4-0 and be damaged?

[boxaholic]

I want to believe this article unfortunately it seems the journalist is a *******. Mayweather is adding to his demise and while I love Pacquiao in the ring I cant stand him fighting Margacheato.

[Uturn]

Fight will never happen.

[paulf]

the commission. next question ....

y u not answearing my question when i always answear yours lol dont beat about the bush

ost is outside the commission yes or no?

Are you ****ing clueless?????

Boxers create catchweights when negotiating terms for a fight. Usually when someone is coming up in weight and are afraid of being at a disadvantage (Pac-Cotto) or coming down and don't want to be weight drained (De La Hoya-Forbes). Naturally the more famous fighter with the bigger hand at the table will try to stack the cards in his favor, and of course will be rightfully criticized for it.

Serious, you should stay out of arguments on here until you learn the very most basic concepts of the sport.

At least go read boxing's wikipedia entry at first. Holy ****.

I mean, America doesn't even having a national boxing commission! There isn't one! Do you think each state is making up their own weight classes or something?? Jesus. I can't believe I just read that.

That is the ******est thing i have ever read on boxingscene. Ever.

[brick wall]

if you even bothered to read what I wrote you'd know that I wasn't accusing YOU of saying Schaefer co-signed anything I was talking strictly about Michael Moron's idiotic claim that by Schaefer saying what he said he co signed Manny being willing to take the tests and has been willing, it doesn't prove that at all which was the whole point to my post

this whole article from this imbecile Michael Moron was put out there to create the perception that both sides agreed on the testing yet where is Mayweather at? where is Mayweather saying "Yes Manny agreed" and where is Manny saying "yes I agreed"? it's not there, this whole buzz that is going on here right now about Manny agreeing to FULL testing is all due to some biased guy's word

Manny probably DID say what Marley said that he said and same with Richard Schaefer he probably said that too but MY problem is that Marley takes Richard's words out of context, adds his own meaning to it and reports it to the general public as solid facts when in fact they are not. Richard saying "if Pacquiao said that, then I'm sure he wouldn't lie about it" is only Richard's opinion on whether or not he thinks Pacquiao would lie, he didn't say "Pacquiao said that, I'm sure he isn't lie about it" he theorized that "IF Pacquiao said that, THEN I'm sure he WOULDN'T lie about it" which isn't an admission in ANY way shape or form whatsoever, people are just speculating and using their own perceptions and opinions to try and produce facts and it just doesn't work that way

you think that just because he is a writer that I'm supposed to just concede my thoughts and act as if I just simply don't know ****? nah man I'm not you son I wont do that because I spend too much time keeping up with this stuff and I do it for the love not for a pay check unlike these guys. it's plain to see that Michael Moron took Schaefer's words out of context, he clearly made it seem to be something it ultimately was not, he took this -->"if Pacquiao said that, then I'm sure he wouldn't lie about it"<-- and somehow convinced people that both sides agreed to testing and that's so bull **** it literally upsets me, I mean it when I say Michael Marley and others who report Boxing do not deserve their jobs.

and then to make it worse he quotes Schaefer and doesn't quote Pacquiao, why didn't you quote Manny? because his quote would have been as full of **** as the quote Schaefer gave you? ****ing biased prick. don't call me a damn ***** neither @sshole because I respect the **** out of Manny Pacquiao, Top Rank NO but Manny Pacquiao YES I DO respect him I just choose not to walk around with his 3rd leg buried up my ass is all and I choose to still weigh the facts

you know you're problem really is marley...he has zero credibility as far as you're concerned. that's all fine you have every right in the world to do that. but that's on you, other people can believe what they want and they don't have to agree with you. even boxingscene posts marley's articles in their website. the moderator himself found time to start a thread about his article. i'm not saying that they believed the contents of that article but for boxingscene to subscribe to marley's article means a lot about his credibility. you can say whatever you want about him but it doesn't mean he lies everytime. whether you like it or not his article is a welcome news for people who want to see the fight. if he's lying or not or he took somebody's words out of context then it's all fine because the truth will come out anyway especially the aspect of pac agreeing to random blood testing. it's all good for me i don't see any problem with that article. if you do then it's you who got a problem.

[Chuckguy]

How does one go 4-0 and be damaged?

so then you are basically saying that JCC came back and won a couple fights but because he was 2-0 he isnt considered damaged goods?

[Blubba]

Are you ****ing clueless?????

Boxers create catchweights when negotiating terms for a fight. Usually when someone is coming up in weight and are afraid of being at a disadvantage (Pac-Cotto) or coming down and don't want to be weight drained (De La Hoya-Forbes). Naturally the more famous fighter with the bigger hand at the table will try to stack the cards in his favor, and of course will be rightfully criticized for it.

Serious, you should stay out of arguments on here until you learn the very most basic concepts of the sport.

At least go read boxing's wikipedia entry at first. Holy ****.

I mean, America doesn't even having a national boxing commission! There isn't one! Do you think each state is making up their own weight classes or something?? Jesus. I can't believe I just read that.

That is the ******est thing i have ever read on boxingscene. Ever.

now now who's got a temper lol!. i was playing with that guy.

it dun matter who creates a catchweight. a weight is a weight! its within a division and is still overseen by a commission on the official scales on weigh in nite no matter what. correct?

ost is not overseen by the commissions officials is done by the usada, that was my point that the guy wont adhere to, and neither wud u it seems hahaah! chill out and less of the foul language young master,

[Vasyl’s dad]

so then you are basically saying that JCC came back and won a couple fights but because he was 2-0 he isnt considered damaged goods?

JCC was 85.

Context kid.

Learn it.

[Gutz]

What year? it's 2010, bud.

2010 =

Clottey, Cotto, Margcheato > Mosley, JMM

[paulf]

now now who's got a temper lol!. i was playing with that guy.

it dun matter who creates a catchweight. a weight is a weight! its within a division and is still overseen by a commission on the official scales on weigh in nite no matter what. correct?

ost is not overseen by the commissions officials is done by the usada, that was my point that the guy wont adhere to, and neither wud u it seems hahaah! chill out and less of the foul language young master,

What you are saying has no relevance to anything. At all. You say you are playing with the guy then you try to make your argument again.

Sanctioning bodies like the WBA, WBC, ect. that give out championship titles are not overseen by any county's boxing commissions. They are completely separate en******, and do not answer to any "commissions officials"

The same thing goes for the USADA.

So what's your point? You're talking a lot but not saying anything.