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  • #11
    Originally posted by raesaad
    I hope barrera gets a shot for redemption against Pacquiao!

    HAHAHHAHAAH you hope? barrera can have pacman anyday he has been avoiding it for some odd reason! he doesnt want to fight pacman again he was offered to fight him but he chose not to on many occasions.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by hectari
      I believe pacman would have won! Jmm had the blueprint to beat pacman and erik morales claimed to have watched that tape 10 times before fighting pacquiao.

      It would have been a better fight if pacman fought morales instead of a barrera morales 3.
      It helped but i still think Morales would have won, it may have taken a few more round to work him out but it wouldnt have effected the outcome. Remember Manny had the blue print to beat Morales(thats if you think Barrera did beat Morales)

      For those say it didnt help at all - why did Morales watch it a lot??

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      • #13
        Originally posted by hectari
        I just have a feeling The fight would have been different! morales has never been known for avoiding punches haha we all know that he doesnt have the defense of JMM! he actually imitated jmm's style by pressuring the aggressor and make them fight backing up.
        actually that has always been morales style. morales has always been a ****er. he is always an aggressive fighter. and morales does have some defense. not the best but he does have some. otherwise he wouldn't be where he is. morales can take a punch to be for sure...but he doesn't always have to. the fact is the best man won that fight. fair and square. would it have happened the same way if the fight was before jmm? who knows. the destroyer imo has always had weaknesses. he doesn't really have boxing skills. and it was only a matter of time before someone exposed that. don't get me wrong people....i do like manny.....i love watching his fights. whats not to like about the guy? he brings tons of excitement. i hope his career continues on and he wins lots of fights. heck i think it would be cool if he beat morales in the rematch and setup "wwIII" (did i really just say that?) he as a great camera personality too. what the hell did he say? j/k

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        • #14
          Originally posted by elveiel
          It helped but i still think Morales would have won, it may have taken a few more round to work him out but it wouldnt have effected the outcome. Remember Manny had the blue print to beat Morales(thats if you think Barrera did beat Morales)

          For those say it didnt help at all - why did Morales watch it a lot??
          that i can agree with to a degree. he could have watched any of his recent fights and still gained the knowledge he needed. i mean why would he seriously have watched the jmm fight so much if all of pac-mans excuses for not winning were true? i mean seriously....if the reason that mannie didn't dominate the whole fight because of socks and hand wrist problems wouldn't that make it pointless to watch the pac-jmm fight? and wouldn't it make watching it useless? perhaps the excuses were true and legit. maybe they weren't. believe what yuo want. but if you believe in the blisters and sore wrist or hands whatever from jmm then morales watching that fight is null and void. if you believe that the excuses were **** then it looks like jmm did a great job of recovering from 3 first round kds and basically controlled the rest of the fight. perhaps it did help erik if this is the case.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by DR. FREECLOUD
            that i can agree with to a degree. he could have watched any of his recent fights and still gained the knowledge he needed. i mean why would he seriously have watched the jmm fight so much if all of pac-mans excuses for not winning were true? i mean seriously....if the reason that mannie didn't dominate the whole fight because of socks and hand wrist problems wouldn't that make it pointless to watch the pac-jmm fight? and wouldn't it make watching it useless? perhaps the excuses were true and legit. maybe they weren't. believe what yuo want. but if you believe in the blisters and sore wrist or hands whatever from jmm then morales watching that fight is null and void. if you believe that the excuses were **** then it looks like jmm did a great job of recovering from 3 first round kds and basically controlled the rest of the fight. perhaps it did help erik if this is the case.
            I think pacman lost alot of aggresion! when he fought agapito he was ferocious he got cut bigger then he did when he fought morales! and he didnt stop. But during this fight pacman looked like he just woke up an hour ago when he entered the staduim. I know pacman is alot like kostya tszyu they have that killer straight punch but no uppercuts.

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            • #16
              I just watched Barrera vs Pacquaio for the first time. I noticed that in the Barrera fight Pacquaio seemed like 3x sharper than he was against Morales. If Pacquaio fought the same way he did against Barrera against Morales he would have won because he beat the living f**K out of Barrera.

              Maybe all those Phillipino bigshots being at that fight and everything kind of iced him. Or Pacquaio has lost some hunger since beating Barrera.

              Against Marquez he also did not look as sharp as he did against Barrera. He was actin a Mike Tyson. He stopped fighting after he knocked Marquez down 3 times and Marquez did not quit.
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              • #17
                Originally posted by McKay
                I just watched Barrera vs Pacquaio for the first time. I noticed that in the Barrera fight Pacquaio seemed like 3x sharper than he was against Morales. If Pacquaio fought the same way he did against Barrera against Morales he would have won because he beat the living f**K out of Barrera.

                Maybe all those Phillipino bigshots being at that fight and everything kind of iced him. Or Pacquaio has lost some hunger since beating Barrera.

                Against Marquez he also did not look as sharp as he did against Barrera. He was actin a Mike Tyson. He stopped fighting after he knocked Marquez down 3 times and Marquez did not quit.
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                Agree. If you knock a guy down 3 times doesnt that make you more confident and hungry to finish him? I heard pacman is becoming soft in the ring freddie roach tells him to not treat fighters in the ring like they are friends! Roach says pacman needs to stop caring if a fighter gets hurt and just fight because the other guy will rip your head off and not care if you get brain damage.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by McKay
                  I just watched Barrera vs Pacquaio for the first time. I noticed that in the Barrera fight Pacquaio seemed like 3x sharper than he was against Morales. If Pacquaio fought the same way he did against Barrera against Morales he would have won because he beat the living f**K out of Barrera.

                  Maybe all those Phillipino bigshots being at that fight and everything kind of iced him. Or Pacquaio has lost some hunger since beating Barrera.

                  Against Marquez he also did not look as sharp as he did against Barrera. He was actin a Mike Tyson. He stopped fighting after he knocked Marquez down 3 times and Marquez did not quit.
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                  pacquaio looked three times shaper because barrera didn't bring his A game. morales and marquez made him look less sharp by out boxing pac.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by roosta
                    pacquaio looked three times shaper because barrera didn't bring his A game. morales and marquez made him look less sharp by out boxing pac.

                    exactly. morales made pac look like a fool. he beat manny to the punch and made him fight his match. i think morales watched more than just the jmm fight. he knew when pac was trying to get set and stopped him by taking the fight to him just before he did get set. like i said...pac has no real boxing skills. he is pure energy and power.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by elveiel
                      (thats if you think Barrera did beat Morales)
                      If anyone thinks Morales won the third fight:

                      1.) They are not familiar with how boxing is judged and scored

                      2.) They need glasses

                      Plain and simple. Morales got his ass handed to him, by a wide margin....and the only reason it was close on the cards was because Morales was the WBC champion and Barrera the challenger.



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