Comments Thread For: “Fighting Words” – Golden Boy vs. Top Rank Lawsuit Changes Everything, Nothing

[Tamis!]

- delahoya bribes pacquiao w/ suitcase of money knowing pac was under arum

- delahoya backs FELONY FRAUD for olympic random blood test, but was against random blood test for his own fighter in mosley

- delahoya said it wasnt pacs power that he couldnt handle, it was pacs speed...but later changed from "it was his speed" to "after those punches from pacquiao, wow...now i have to wonder" -- this was a two faced 360 degree turn scu.mbag statement

- delahoya said during the 2nd round of negotiations that the pac/felony fraud fight was close to being a done deal...then changed his statement by saying "ive only said that because many people kept asking me how the negotiations were going ... so i said what the heck and said "the fight is close to being made"

- delahoya hadnt done anything to earn any type of commision off of any of pacs recent fights...delahoya was part reason why the first negotiations fell thru...and he thinks he is owed money to him?

- delahoya recently had some kind of money issues with the NY athleteic commision...delahoya said "it was an honest mistake"...if that was an honeste mistake, dont you think pac did an honest mistake by accepting delahoyas suitcase money bribe? delahoya is a business man and shouldve know better than to have bribed another boxer under another promoter

- delahoya is a scu.m bag two face man whore

Add to those the time when he was being interviewed and he commented about how he felt about a catchweight fight, not sure how it went but to an effect he said he's against it, then the interviewer told him he fought Hopkins for the MW title at a catchweight, and Oscar was pwned....

[GreyFox]

- delahoya bribes pacquiao w/ suitcase of money knowing pac was under arum

- delahoya backs FELONY FRAUD for olympic random blood test, but was against random blood test for his own fighter in mosley

- delahoya said it wasnt pacs power that he couldnt handle, it was pacs speed...but later changed from "it was his speed" to "after those punches from pacquiao, wow...now i have to wonder" -- this was a two faced 360 degree turn scu.mbag statement

- delahoya said during the 2nd round of negotiations that the pac/felony fraud fight was close to being a done deal...then changed his statement by saying "ive only said that because many people kept asking me how the negotiations were going ... so i said what the heck and said "the fight is close to being made"

- delahoya hadnt done anything to earn any type of commision off of any of pacs recent fights...delahoya was part reason why the first negotiations fell thru...and he thinks he is owed money to him?

- delahoya recently had some kind of money issues with the NY athleteic commision...delahoya said "it was an honest mistake"...if that was an honeste mistake, dont you think pac did an honest mistake by accepting delahoyas suitcase money bribe? delahoya is a business man and shouldve know better than to have bribed another boxer under another promoter

- delahoya is a scu.m bag two face man whore

If Oscar is a scum bag then Arum is surely the devil.

[jrosales13]

If Oscar is a scum bag then Arum is surely the devil.

Oscar is the devil he is much worse.

[str8ballin]

long essay is long.

[tredh]

Oscar is the devil he is much worse.

Why do you say De la Hoya is much worse?

[HARLEM AL]

Why do you say De la Hoya is much worse?

J to hates Hoya with a passion. I personally think both are equal. Quiet as kept bob is putting out some decent fights.

[Lorily]

top rank has to pay gbp manny is dum to sign with 2 companies hes hungry for money he needs to invest it well

dumb **** shouldnt have signed with two companies, idc who was flashing what money in his face

Don't act like Manny is the only fighter in history to have ever done this. Manny wasn't the first I'm sure, and he won't be the last for certain, that has signed with two promotional companies at the same time.

This was posted by BPP yesterday, regarding Victor Ortiz:

"I'll say this. The last time a Top Rank fighter claimed to be a free agent and jumped to Golden Boy was Victor Ortiz. Arum claimed he was still under contract. Ortiz claimed he was a free agent. Top Rank sued Golden Boy and won. Now Top Rank gets a percentage of the revenue in every Ortiz fight."

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?p=9298874#post9298874

And Victor was born in the U.S. and speaks fluent English, so atleast Manny and Chavez Jr. have a little excuse. Now, Chavez Jr. seems to think he's a free agent, while Arum claims to still have YEARS left on the contract between them.

What I don't understand is - if a fighter is claiming to be a free agent and signs with two different promotional companies at the same time, why wouldn't the fighter be responsible to pay both companies out of his own pocket? For instance, if GBP says that Chavez repeatedly told them (when asked) that he was under no other contract, and signs with them in good faith, and it turns out that it's not true - how is it that GBP (or vise versa) would be responsible to pay another PR company? I would think that percentage would come out of the fighters earnings.

[jbpanama]

Oscar's First Scam as a Pro was taking a
Million Dollars from Shelly Finkle, as a signing
Bonus, and swinging with the BREAD!!!
No Class Move by a no CLASS CAT!!!

[SCEN3RY]

Very insightful piece. Anybody know when Pac's contract is up with Top Rank...and if it is soon, does that mean the co-contract with Golden Boy is over as well - So maybe then they can get back to co-promoting events - without having to share that particular revenue...?

[Mr. David]

BoxingScenery, an answer from the lawsuit.

Pacquiao's initial contract ran through November of this year but has probably been extended.

From the complaint:

TR gained the exclusive right to promote Pacquiao’s bouts through November 30, 2010. On information and belief, Pacquiao, M-P and TR have agreed to the terms of a contract extension for a number of years.