ariza's secret to pac's superb stamina

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

LOL at you acting like Pac never had special power, speed, or stamina before Ariza was part of his team. He actually has less power and speed than he did at 122 and 126 and 130 but STEROIDS!!!! Right?

Where did you get that from?

Hes never looked as good as he has since moving up to 135 and beyond.

Period.

He NEVER had one punch KO power before. Then he moves up and stops Hatton with a one punch KO.

Hes put on ***** street by Oscar Larios yet eats Cottos punches.

Why do you think we all assume he will stop Margarito?

He clearly has more power.

[Steak]

Its not ******ed to think a fighter could be cheating. Its naive to think any other way. All these guys arent clean whther its Manny, Williams, Hopkins, Floyd whoever.

Its naive to think there is no way possible Pac could be cheating.

Its a professional sport, theres always a chance they are on something.

I suspect Manny no more than I do Williams, Hopkins, Floyd, or anyone else with excellent conditioning.

[Steak]

wait, steroids are supposed to give you punch resistance...?
no, Im really asking, Ive never heard that before.

[IMDAZED]

wait, steroids are supposed to give you punch resistance...?
no, Im really asking, Ive never heard that before.

I don't think there is anything specific for it. But you can improve punch resistance without PEDS - so why not with? There are PEDS for better vision!

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

wait, steroids are supposed to give you punch resistance...?
no, Im really asking, Ive never heard that before.

According to Victor Conte. They can help add strength to the neck and trap muscles which help absorb impact which is why Floyd is always seen working out his neck with that harness.

[Steak]

seems like a stretch to me.

besides, I can show multiple examples of guys that had better chins later in their careers than later on.

for example, DeLaHoya getting dropped by a featherweight early in his career, and then standing up to Mosley's punches without really even getting hurt.

sometimes quick punchs you dont expect hurt more than punches that are more heavy.

[IMDAZED]

seems like a stretch to me.

besides, I can show multiple examples of guys that had better chins later in their careers than later on.

for example, DeLaHoya getting dropped by a featherweight early in his career, and then standing up to Mosley's punches without really even getting hurt.

sometimes quick punchs you dont expect hurt more than punches that are more heavy.

De La Hoya was dropped at 130, where he was severely weight drained. his chin was iron at 135, 140 before he started getting hurt again at 147 and 154 against naturally bigger guys.

[AllEyesOpen]

Fact is, regardless if you thin he's on something or not, no one would even mention it if he hadn't been so quick to refuse OST.

I've said it before, **** the Mayweather Family and their opinions, Pac's actions were what made people wonder what's going on with his training, and wether you think he's is or isn't on PEDs, the only way these questions will really go away is if he goes through with it sooner or later.

[bojangles1987]

Where did you get that from?

Hes never looked as good as he has since moving up to 135 and beyond.

Period.

He NEVER had one punch KO power before. Then he moves up and stops Hatton with a one punch KO.

Hes put on ***** street by Oscar Larios yet eats Cottos punches.

Why do you think we all assume he will stop Margarito?

He clearly has more power.

He ALWAYS had one punch power in the lower divisions. At 122 and 126 he had stop fighters cold at any second power. He lifted a guy off the canvas with an uppercut. Because he didn't stop Barrera, Morales, and Marquez, he didn't have great power? Who did knock those guys cold?

He could take Cotto's punches because he only had to take them for 4 rounds and he could see them all coming. He's also technically a far superior fighter to the guy who fought at 122 and 126.

[Steak]

De La Hoya was dropped at 130, where he was severely weight drained. his chin was iron at 135, 140 before he started getting hurt again at 147 and 154 against naturally bigger guys.

likewise, Pacquiao was getting rocked by Oscar Larios at 130, and now that hes moved up in weight his chin has gotten a little more steady.

Pacquiao had a huge size advantage at 130lbs, I remember him jumping up like 18 lbs or something for the Barrera fight.