Prince Naseem Hamed's Legacy

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  • scap
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    #31
    Originally posted by rudy
    Yes his Legendary status is guranteed although it is slightly tarnished by his loss to Barrea. The following fights make up for this Tom Johnson, Kevin Kelly, Wilfredo Vasquez, Aguie Sanchez

    All these fights were thrillers, don't knock him because if it was not for him, most of of the top fighters would be still be fighting for £250,000 for a superfight in their division. When Barrea vs Morales that is price both fighters got, Hamed was getting over £2million a fight

    so yes is a LEGEND
    Naz is a legend because he got 2 mil per fight?

    How can you overuse a term like"legend" be careful.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Frank the Tank
      Before you start ranting check out your facts, everything I said is true. And my respect for Morales couldn't be higher.

      All those guys were at the weight class below Hamed. MAB moved up to fight him. Marquez may have been at the weight at the time, I can't remember, but he'd done **** all then, and still hasn't really.

      I will have to check where Morales, Norwood and MAB were at but I know that Hamed was never held all four belts, the basic point is Naz fought 1 great fight and that is it, he talked about Morales all of the time and never fought him.

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        #33
        Originally posted by jabsRstiff
        "The following fights make up for this Tom Johnson, Kevin Kelly, Wilfredo Vasquez, Aguie Sanchez"

        Listing those guys makes the case AGAINST Hamed.

        Kelly & Vasquez were shot fighters. Augie had no business getting a title shot, & had a horrible chin....yet he gave Hamed pure hell.
        Johnson was slowing down, though still a tough guy. I give Naz credit for beating Johnson, & doing so in impressive fashion.
        There are plenty of other decent names to choose from Jabs. Soto, Ingle, McCullough, Robinson, Bungu, Medina...He didn't really duck anyone. Norwood priced himself out of the fight and was a paper champion anyway.

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          #34
          Originally posted by rudy
          Yes his Legendary status is guranteed although it is slightly tarnished by his loss to Barrea. The following fights make up for this Tom Johnson, Kevin Kelly, Wilfredo Vasquez, Aguie Sanchez

          All these fights were thrillers, don't knock him because if it was not for him, most of of the top fighters would be still be fighting for £250,000 for a superfight in their division. When Barrea vs Morales that is price both fighters got, Hamed was getting over £2million a fight

          so yes is a LEGEND

          Ask HBO about him....they'll say he was a "bad investment".

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            #35
            Originally posted by scap
            I will have to check where Morales, Norwood and MAB were at but I know that Hamed was never held all four belts, the basic point is Naz fought 1 great fight and that is it, he talked about Morales all of the time and never fought him.
            He fought MAB so there's no reason that he wouldn't have fought Morales too.

            Norwood doesn't really deserve consideration. He priced himself out of the fight after winning Vasquez's vacated belt and then got his ass handed to him by Kelley.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Frank the Tank
              He fought MAB so there's no reason that he wouldn't have fought Morales too.

              Norwood doesn't really deserve consideration. He priced himself out of the fight after winning Vasquez's vacated belt and then got his ass handed to him by Kelley.
              Norwood did not fight Kelly. He fought Gainer.

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                #37
                Originally posted by jabsRstiff
                Norwood did not fight Kelly. He fought Gainer.
                You're right. Kelley beat Gainer.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Frank the Tank
                  He fought MAB so there's no reason that he wouldn't have fought Morales too.

                  Norwood doesn't really deserve consideration. He priced himself out of the fight after winning Vasquez's vacated belt and then got his ass handed to him by Kelley.

                  Like Jab said he Norwood fought Gainer and he hardly got his ass kicked...I have heard Gainer's quotes from that night and Derrick himself said he was out on his feet on more than one occassion, that was a very close fight.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by scap
                    Like Jab said he Norwood fought Gainer and he hardly got his ass kicked...I have heard Gainer's quotes from that night and Derrick himself said he was out on his feet on more than one occassion, that was a very close fight.
                    It was a poor choice of words, I was a little agitated.

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                      #40
                      Hamed's best wins are actually Tom Johnson, Paul Ingle, and Manuel Medina.

                      These are guys who were in their prime at their prime weight when they fought Naz. Neither are anywhere NEAR Great. Medina is actually the most accomplished out of all three.....

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