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Manny Pacquaio: The Real Reason He Won't Fight Any Junior Welterweights

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  • Originally posted by DempseyRollin View Post
    and margarito can???
    What? margarito at 140? i don't think so

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    • Originally posted by gapo View Post
      What? margarito at 140? i don't think so
      margarito at any weight pac competes in...including 151

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      • Originally posted by DempseyRollin View Post
        margarito at any weight pac competes in...including 151
        Nope,,, i can't see margarito beating bradley at 140. Too much speed for him. and weighing that low for him is not healthy.

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        • Originally posted by gapo View Post
          Nope,,, i can't see margarito beating bradley at 140. Too much speed for him. and weighing that low for him is not healthy.
          uhhh im asking u if margs can beat pac. i mean is that to cosensus on this site, that margarito has a shot at beating pac??? do ppl actually believe that??

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          • Originally posted by hellogarci_24
            forget that *******s...this *****s keep on braggin also why not fight pwil or martinez....yet they forgot this people are jr/middleweights...now if manny fights them they will still complain why catchweights.******.
            Explain to me why Manny wanted to fight Yuri ****ing Foreman at 154, but won't fight Williams and Martinez who are the two best fighters at 154 and have called him out begging for a fight?

            Why is it okay for Manny to tell a lesser opponent like Yuri he can come in at 154, but not Martinez and Williams who fight in the same weight class, Martinez is the champ, Martinez is the best fighter at 154, etc.?

            Don't give me a bull**** answer. I would be saying the same thing about Floyd if he did the same thing Manny is doing. Floyd has no choice, but to fight Martinez or Manny when he comes back.

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            • Originally posted by Hasha View Post
              So now you believe DLH was past his prime? It doesn't matter how DLH came into the ring, even if he didn't drain himself down to 145 Roach felt DLH was past prime and referred to his latest fight against Forbes, and said out of his own mouth, "this guy (DLH) can't even punch."
              DLH was past his prime even the time your coward queen fought him, did you know that? What is amazing about that was Pac with just one fight at lightweight jumped all the way to welterweight and made Oscar quit. Unlike your coward queen he asked JMM to move up two division above his normal weight. Not only that he satisfied he cheated him some more at the scale.

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              • Originally posted by BoxingScenery View Post
                You misunderstood me dude. I didn't mean Roach and Manny believed DLH was going to beat Pac. That was just the "boxing experts" and their take of it. I don't know how to bring you back in time, just...it's really beyond the point, what I was getting at is, DLH doesn't represent a top competitor in the welterweight division. And I think...you agree with that? Whereas Cotto, by all means, is. So the catchweight is a means of slowly approaching that territory...how does Manny fair against these guys? It's like I said, you don't just throw yourself in with the best guy, you test yourself (testing the waters). It only made sense Pac fight Clottey at 147...if not, then move back down in weight, ya dig?

                And Roach talks about every fighter like that...it's really irrelevant. He talks about DLH and then tells Manny not to stand still with DLH, always move....so, that's just Freddie.
                So DLH was so past his prime that he didn't even qualify as a "test?" In actuality, he over trained himself hence coming in at 145, which Pacquiao and Roach did not expect. In other words, they were expecting him to come into the ring in better shape. Yet he still wouldn't qualify as a "test." You can look at it whichever you want, but the way I see it is they knew they were going to beat DLH (in other words, no risk), that is why they agreed at 147.

                In Cotto's case, they saw a risk at the limit hence the need for a catch weight. This after Roach admitted that Cotto was no longer the same fighter pre-Margarito.

                And Cotto at that time was not the best, Mosley was, who dethroned the recently crowned king of WW division. Roach admitted himself that they wanted Mosley to go below 145 to fight Manny. In their eyes, he was the best and didn't want him to "have an advantage." In other words, they avoided the top guy.

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                • Originally posted by gapo View Post
                  Nope,,, i can't see margarito beating bradley at 140. Too much speed for him. and weighing that low for him is not healthy.
                  Margacheato would also be weight drained at 140. Bradley could pull an upset, but according to a few posters who posted in this thread, nobody at 140 has a chance of beating Cotto, Margacheato, and Clottey.

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                  • Originally posted by DempseyRollin View Post
                    uhhh im asking u if margs can beat pac. i mean is that to cosensus on this site, that margarito has a shot at beating pac??? do ppl actually believe that??
                    What again?? lol

                    most fans believes pac will destroy margacheato. I also believe pacquiao will knock margacheato out. Do you feel otherwise?

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                    • Originally posted by gapo View Post
                      What again?? lol

                      most fans believes pac will destroy margacheato. I also believe pacquiao will knock margacheato out. Do you feel otherwise?
                      no...i dont, he stands next to no chance in that fight.

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