Manny Pacquaio: The Real Reason He Won't Fight Any Junior Welterweights

[Hasha]

Oscar was a part-time fighter everyone knew that, Manny treated Oscar like one too. So what was your point again?

I'm the one staying on point. You claimed you didn't buy that Roach believed DLH was past prime. No one said Oscar wasn't part-time, the whole argument was whether DLH was past his prime as Roach indicated, and you said you didn't believe it...so what is it now? Do you now admit that Roach saw Oscar as past his prime?

[War Dinamita]

no...i dont, he stands next to no chance in that fight.

That's not true.

This is boxing and any world class fighter has a chance because you only need to land one lucky punch to win a fight.

[SCEN3RY]

So DLH was so past his prime that he didn't even qualify as a "test?" In actuality, he over trained himself hence coming in at 145, which Pacquiao and Roach did not expect. In other words, they were expecting him to come into the ring in better shape. Yet he still wouldn't qualify as a "test." You can look at it whichever you want, but the way I see it is they knew they were going to beat DLH (in other words, no risk), that is why they agreed at 147.

In Cotto's case, they saw a risk at the limit hence the need for a catch weight. This after Roach admitted that Cotto was no longer the same fighter pre-Margarito.

And Cotto at that time was not the best, Mosley was, who dethroned the recently crowned king of WW division. Roach admitted himself that they wanted Mosley to go below 145 to fight Manny. In their eyes, he was the best and didn't want him to "have an advantage." In other words, they avoided the top guy.

Let me start off by saying, I think we're tryna say the same thing about DLH...almost, so lets just put that one away now.

Going back to what I said, it's my belief that Cotto was a means of testing Manny against good opposition...seeing how Manny fairs against Cotto at a catchweight, that's it. Just a way of settling into 147 (I just don't consider DLH a competitor at 147, hence Manny moved down in weight to fight Hatton)...I don't recommend anybody jump weight divisions and fight top notch guys. Mosley has nothing to do with this fight. I know Mosley beat Margarito, and you're right Freddie/Arum did choose Cotto over Mosley. But I never thought Mosley was better than Cotto, back then and still don't...style make fights, and Mosley had a great game plan for Margarito. I don't really care that they chose Cotto over Mosley, seeing as Cotto beat Mosley and then Mosley signed a fight with Berto after Pac vs Cotto...so, the timing just doesn't work out, but my previous posts weren't even about that...so I don't wanna get off topic. I hope we understand each other now...and if we disagree, well...who cares, it was nice talkin to ya. Peace.

[Hasha]

DLH was past his prime even the time your coward queen fought him, did you know that? What is amazing about that was Pac with just one fight at lightweight jumped all the way to welterweight and made Oscar quit. Unlike your coward queen he asked JMM to move up two division above his normal weight. Not only that he satisfied he cheated him some more at the scale.

What idiots like you need to realize that just because someone criticizes Pacquiao, doesn't necessarily he/she is a fan of Mayweather. I don't like Mayweather, hence, no bias.

And I know DLH was past his prime when Mayweather fought him, but that was also the weight he was comfortable at, meaning he didn't have to kill himself to make weight, resulting in better performance against Mayweather.

I admit Mayweather saw no challenge in Marquez and still criticize him for it. Similarly Roach and Pacquiao knew there was no risk in fighting DLH and that's why the fought. They didn't want to take a chance against Cotto hence the need for catchweight.

That's the difference between me n you. You're a puckiao nut hugger, and I look at a boxer's actions and act accordingly, regardless of who it is.

[gapo]

That's not true.

This is boxing and any world class fighter has a chance because you only need to land one lucky punch to win a fight.

Not at chance at all,, I can't pacquiao standing or trading punches toe to toe with margo.

[Bogart2010]

By Douglas Batiste (Featured Columnist) on September 24, 2010

June 2008, Manny Pacquaio moved up in weight to fight David Diaz for his WBC Lightweight Championship.

Diaz was knocked out in the ninth round.

That would be the only time he fought in the weight class. The very next year, Pacquaio fought at Junior Welterweight for the first time in his career, and again he knocked Ricky Hatton out in the second round to win his first title and only title in that division.

Later that year, he fought Miguel Cotto at the Welterweight division at a catch weight of 145 pounds. He won that fight with a 12th-round stoppage, awarding him his first title in the Welterweight Division.

Since then, Manny Pacquaio hasn’t defended either belt at lightweight or Junior Welterweight. Floyd Mayweather would have been his first title defense at either weight class in almost two years if the negotiation were successful.

In the last two years, Manny Pacquaio has received three belts in three different weight classes. If he is successful November 13, that will be his fourth in two years.

Sounds real accomplished, but what’s also su****ious is none of the belts were ever defended.

I’m starting to think that Manny is not interested in fighting any top contenders in any of these weight classes. If he is able to put away Antonio Margarito for the vacated Super Welterweight WBC title, you can bet he won’t be defending that title either.


Floyd Mayweather versus Manny Pacquaio is the dream fight, but right now seems really unlikely, since Floyd is having personal battles of his own.

Although we don’t have Floyd Mayweather, we still have the other person in that equation, and he’ll fight anyone. At least that’s what Top Rank is selling, but I’ve been observing closely, and I’ve realized its one place he won’t go.

The Junior Welterweight is full of great talent: Timothy Bradley, Devon Alexander, Amir Khan, and Juan Marquez. The problem with this division is only the informed boxing fan will recognize these names and the talent they possess.

Right now, this division is not a money bag, but if you insert one name “Manny Pacquaio,” this division will reign supreme.

All of these fighters present a great threat to Pac-Man’s career because they all can fight. They are young, smart, and no one is one-dimensional.

These guys are not the walk-in, straight-line fighters Freddie Roach typically pairs his fighter against. In 2009, after beating Ricky Hatton, Pacquaio didn’t stick around to allow them to expose him either.

By far, destroying Miguel Cotto was his greatest accomplishment, but what is getting overwhelmingly obvious is Manny Pacquaio, for the last few years has been fighting losers instead of winners. De La Hoya, Hatton, Cotto, Clottey, and now Margarito make up his last five fights, and all suffered career-changing losses right before he chose to fight them.

Boxing has always been a sport where your last fight determines your future. If you win, your chances to fight the best increases; if you lose, you go to the end of the line.

Somehow, Top Rank and Manny Pacquaio have rerouted the map to the top. In recent history, only if you lose in a big fight can you qualify to fight Manny Pacquaio.

so this means PACMAN is a ducker?

[clmags12]

I'm the one staying on point. You claimed you didn't buy that Roach believed DLH was past prime. No one said Oscar wasn't part-time, the whole argument was whether DLH was past his prime as Roach indicated, and you said you didn't believe it...so what is it now? Do you now admit that Roach saw Oscar as past his prime?

When I said you still believe that, I meant Oscar was the one who set the weight limit of 147.
On fight night for DLH/Pac, Roach changed up their plan and attacked early when they saw how Oscar was drained, that meant they still had respect for DLH and came with a gameplan to beat him. They mentioned this post-interview if I remember correctly. If they felt he had no chance at all, they would not have gone through the trouble of planning this or that.

[tibbar]

i don't think that the article touches on the real reason he won't fight any junior welter but it does contain a lot of truth. manny pacquiao has taken a route to the top that NO ONE else has been allowed to take.

anyone who cannot, at least, admit that is the very opposite of a stone-cold hater.

let me correct the bolded one boss,no one dared to/no one took the risk and succeeded theres one, many thinks is capable especially the *****s, but he is more fond of taking vacations and/or beating women in between, and he is afraid to take the risk that he choose a safer path. pacman fights whoever is put in front of him, is that his fault? thats the reason why. it is also the reason why boxers have what you called "Managers" and "Promoters" .
Manny is rich now beyond his wildest dreams, fans are happy and being entertained, up and coming boxers are inspired, young kids have a good person/role model to emulate. whos to complain, "boxing experts"? "true boxing fans"? "hard core boxing fans?"
imo what the writer really wants is for manny to lose, even if manny defeated all those he mentioned he will still find issues to write to underrate pacmans achievements.

we are in the modern times, gladiators who needs to kill in order to fight another day or the times when a fastgun is sought after and challenged by another to earn a name like in the old west, kill or be killed in the process is already in the past. perceptions have changed and boxing is considered as sports and business as well. but theres more in boxing than knocking the **** out of the other person, or knocking off the head from the shoulder of the opponent. it is the story individual boxer make in his run to the top thatn is also important. manny's run is considered fantasy made to reality. he needs not prove anything, hes making his story and its already a good one needs no more embellishments. why not just let those young fighters make their own story, or better the writer write about them.

[gapo]

Margacheato would also be weight drained at 140. Bradley could pull an upset, but according to a few posters who posted in this thread, nobody at 140 has a chance of beating Cotto, Margacheato, and Clottey.

I gotta see that,, i think cotto, margo and clottey can no longer fight at 140. They will not be that competative anymore in that weight class.

[JDezi4]

I'm pretty sure the hate this article gets has something to do with the fact it doesn't end with MANNY'S THE BEST EVER, NUMBER 1 P4P, FIGHTER OF THE DECADE