Manny Pacquaio: The Real Reason He Won't Fight Any Junior Welterweights

[Hasha]

the last time i check cotto was his first legit fight to welter where he came from flyweight.

Elaborate please...why fight him at 145?

[Hasha]

because they believe he is pushing over the limit...many people doubted that he can make weight above 140 before. he just did that just to make the fight happen. remember he was just 145 agains DLH? he eats a lot just to make weight.

so why allow Clottey to come in at 147? They suddenly realized after Cotto it was alright to have future opponents come in at the ww limit?

[War Dinamita]

because they believe he is pushing over the limit...many people doubted that he can make weight above 140 before. he just did that just to make the fight happen. remember he was just 145 agains DLH? he eats a lot just to make weight.

He was at 150 before he started training for his next fight.

Don't move up in weight, if you need to make up your own weight classes, especially when your opponents can still make the official weight classes.

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Pac was coming into the ring at least 140 in most of his fights before he moved up to WW.

I don't know what you and your friend are talking about but...
That's true dude, Pac would rehydrate a good 10 pounds (which is normal nowadays) when he was fighting 130 (I remember specifically the Morales fights). I meant to respond to one of your posts earlier today when I was reading through this earlier, but I couldn't find your post later on, but anyways...you had mentioned how Pac walks around at 151 (I'm pretty sure it was the Kobe Avatar, excuse me if I'm wrong) I really don't think that's the case dude. If you take a look at the Clottey weigh in, which was Manny's highest weight, weighed in, he was 145. If you freeze that image, and take a look at him when he is not training, he is no more than 138-142. Look at it like this, if Pac really weighed 151, then why would he put himself at a disadvantage by not weighing in the full 147, he's come in as light as 142 for a welterweight bout, you see what I'm sayin dude? Once again, I'm not sure what the conversation was, but I thought I might throw that out there now.

[straightleft]

Huh? A fight with a young fast fighter is a lot harder fight than fighting a shot, past prime, cracked chin fighter.

Khan vs. Manny would be a lot tougher fight for Manny than Margacheato. Khan also dropped Pac in sparring with a body shot.

LOL! and Porter also right? You all *****s are really like to make up stories just to discredit Pac achievements. Khan and Bradly harder than Cotto and Margarito? GTFOH!

[SCEN3RY]

thats it....its like you found a river in the middle of the forrest at you doubt to swim because you are afraid there is a crocodile. but later you found out that its safe, the you swim...

lol that's a great analogy. In simpler terms, it's just testing the waters. It's like Fighter X has 5 fights at 140, then he feels like it's time to move up, the smart thing to do is test the waters by fighting an average cat in the next division...it's not wise to go straight for the big dog. The catchweight was just a way of testing the waters and still getting a good pay check.

[Pacdbest]

Once Floyd signed the Pac fight then maybe he can call all these top 140 pounder and give them application for Pac's sparring partners. Khan is already in the line up, We can add Devon for his running away defense. We can add Bradley for his Toughness and featherfisted ness. Guzman for his shoulder roll, will take berto and Ortiz as sub just incase somebody quit.

[Hasha]

thats it....its like you found a river in the middle of the forrest at you doubt to swim because you are afraid there is a crocodile. but later you found out that its safe, the you swim...

ohhh so only when it's there's no risk for Pacquiao is when he fights? What about the fight with DLH? That was allowed at the limit, and after battering DLH, did he not realize it was safe for him to allow an opponent to come in at the limit?

[ModernTalking]

He was at 150 before he started training for his next fight.

Don't move up in weight, if you need to make up your own weight classes, especially when your opponents can still make the official weight classes.

In hat case Cotto is probably 180, Margarito 190, Clottey 180, Dela Hoya 190.

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ohhh so only when it's there's no risk for Pacquiao is when he fights? What about the fight with DLH? That was allowed at the limit, and after battering DLH, did he not realize it was safe for him to allow an opponent to come in at the limit?

DLH was past it, but only after the fight did most people realize that. Remember when the fight was announced, DLH caught a lot of flack for fighting a lightweight? People were talking about boycotting the fight and whatnot? Well, long story short, DLH turned out to be old and hardly represented Miguel Cotto. In fact, Manny went back down in weight for Hatton. You probably didn't catch my last post, but I mentioned how he was testing the waters with Cotto. The catchweight was just a way of not stepping up too fast into unfamiliar territory, against someone of that stature. You don't go st8 for a top guy in the next division, you have to pace yourself, nothing wrong with that.