Naseem vs. Barrera II - what would have happened?

[Guest]

Now, before you reply - WAIT. Don't hit me with none of that "Yo, youse Britt ***get youse ****kin humid youse *** LMAO" bull****. I've got no real bias here, and couldn't care less where the fighters were born.

But if you saw that documentary Little Prince, The Big Fight you'll have seen a Naz that was so absorbed by the ever-increasing size of his own ego and so KO-obsessed that he spent more time worrying about his new haircut than he did sparring. His timing was off even before the fight, and Steward was concerned with his lack of training.

As for the actual fight, many talk about it as if it was a schooling or a whitewash, but while I agree that Barrera won by a wide margin in terms of 10-9 rounds, most of those rounds were close. Sure, there were some, particularly towards the end, that Barrera won clearly (3 or 4? Can't remember, it's been such a long time since I last saw it) but the majority of the ones he took had the potential to go the other way. Naz wasn't getting his ears boxed off, and Marco spent the early part of the fight wary of his power.

So I always used to wonder... what if they'd had a rematch? Naz getting serious, doing his roadwork, working on the accuracy he once had? Could this have been an abberation, an "off night"?

As it stands, the rematch never took place, and Naz seems consigned to history as "the fighter that did really well until he stepped up in class then was found wanting." This might not have been the case... but we'll never know, will we?


Speaking of Naz, wasn't it last month he was supposed to be having a comeback fight??

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It's his own fault, he's responsible for his training, but Barrera would have easily defeated him again.

[Guest]

It's his own fault, he's responsible for his training, but Barrera would have easily defeated him again.

Oh yeah, easily his own fault, I always suspected that the person who beat Naz WAS Naz... but we'll never know for sure.

[MetalVomit]

He had been training poorly for a long time, you can't train poorly when you are fighting a legend in the making.

[Guest]

He had been training poorly for a long time, you can't train poorly when you are fighting a legend in the making.

I've heard this... I've only seen about 2 or 3 Naz fights to be honest, moved away from boxing in the early 90s.

[SliqueJab]

Barrera would have schooled him again. Nas was exposed on that fight. I cheered for Nas during that fight and next thing you know Barrera beat him in every fashion and made him look like an average fighter. ALl that excuses, if Nas really wants to fight Barrera again, Nas would have made it happen. But he knows there's no need for rematch, Nas got beat so bad on that fight that made him go back to where he actually belong.

[scap]

Now, before you reply - WAIT. Don't hit me with none of that "Yo, youse Britt ***get youse ****kin humid youse *** LMAO" bull****. I've got no real bias here, and couldn't care less where the fighters were born.

But if you saw that documentary Little Prince, The Big Fight you'll have seen a Naz that was so absorbed by the ever-increasing size of his own ego and so KO-obsessed that he spent more time worrying about his new haircut than he did sparring. His timing was off even before the fight, and Steward was concerned with his lack of training.

As for the actual fight, many talk about it as if it was a schooling or a whitewash, but while I agree that Barrera won by a wide margin in terms of 10-9 rounds, most of those rounds were close. Sure, there were some, particularly towards the end, that Barrera won clearly (3 or 4? Can't remember, it's been such a long time since I last saw it) but the majority of the ones he took had the potential to go the other way. Naz wasn't getting his ears boxed off, and Marco spent the early part of the fight wary of his power.

So I always used to wonder... what if they'd had a rematch? Naz getting serious, doing his roadwork, working on the accuracy he once had? Could this have been an abberation, an "off night"?

As it stands, the rematch never took place, and Naz seems consigned to history as "the fighter that did really well until he stepped up in class then was found wanting." This might not have been the case... but we'll never know, will we?


Speaking of Naz, wasn't it last month he was supposed to be having a comeback fight??

We do know what would have happened, HAmed basically told us without coming out and actually saying it out loud...by not getting a remtach he spoke loud and clear..."I cant beat Barerra"-how can you come to any other conclusion than this?

[Guest]

Nas got beat so bad on that fight that made him go back to where he actually belong.

Nice bit of racist-sounding rhetoric there.

Is there any chance you can actually stay off my threads? It'd be nice to chat without reading ****e. Thankyou.

[Guest]

We do know what would have happened, HAmed basically told us without coming out and actually saying it out loud...by not getting a remtach he spoke loud and clear..."I cant beat Barerra"-how can you come to any other conclusion than this?

I heard lots of different stories... I heard he was talked out of it, 9/11 stopped it...

[Martin (Top Knowledge)]

I reckon Hamed could have beaten Barrera if he'd have sorted his head out... But by that stage of his career he'd already earned £30 million, ($55 million U.S.) and like "Foreman?" said - "It's hard to get up at 6:00a.m. to do road work when you're wearing silk PJ's"... - Who was it that said that?

Anyway, in the Hamed vs. Barrera fight, it's not as if Hamed got beaten up or anything. He was trying to take Barrera's head off with haymakers towards the end because he had no back up plan.

It's not like Barrera did a (Hopkins/Trinidad or Tszyu/Judah) to Hamed.