***VERY INTERESTING VIDEO ON OSCAR,PAC and Roach!

[ALG United]

LOL he just said he weighed 148 stepping into Oscar , he weighed 146 stepping in with Diaz , not so lightweight eh so was Manny a WW fighting LWs he weight more than all his pre JW opponents lol , its like the idiocy of fanboys saying Hatton was never beaten as a JW although Floyd actually beat him at the same weight that official JW Hatton always entered the ring at , 153 , its your lack of knowledge about weight that allows you to fall into the bull**** spin they put on stuff , Roach plays the weight game very good he knows it weakens fighters that are already drawn down , it hurts them infinitely more than a fighter gaining weight , which is fair game and the mark of a good trainer , Roach is playing to win but dint sit and try and tell me Manny is this god bull**** , he is very well handled and somewhat of a protected species facing another inhouse paid to loose fighter , Margo will not beat Pac and Arum will protect his cash cow you can bet on that .

Yes oscar was 148lbs. at fight night because oscar was also ****** as you are, when manny fought cotto, cotto was around 158-160lbs while manny was around 148-150lbs., and for the clottey fight, clottey was around 160-162lbs. while manny was the same at 148-150lbs. at fight night. So it was oscar and his team's fault, oscar not rehydrating the right way...

[Ray*]

Like i said in the other thread, 70% of Pac's battle are fought for him before he gets in the ring by Roach and the rest is easier for Pac by the time he gets in the ring.

[MACAQUEINBLACK]

karceno = zero credibility.

The video isn't about Karceno.


It's a bunch of revealing interviews from the Pacquiao-De La Hoya PPV broadcast, unexpurgated.

[Pocket Dogs!]

The video isn't about Karceno.

But the video is created by Karceno, who's a known ***** with a taste for Floyd's ****. Floyd used to be one of my favorite fighters but I don't go sucking his **** like Karceno does.

He even defended Floyd saying that he never hit Josie and that the Nevada state police forced his son, Koraun, to lie that he saw his dad hitting his mom. He then states that he knows this because he just does.

If there's evidence that proves other wise, I'll recant my statements if that happens. But until then, Floyd = woman beater = arsehole.

Karceno mentions that this hand wrap scandal was never known and was just edited away but if he did some actual research:

From the Los Angeles Times: http://articles.latimes.com/2008/dec...rts/sp-boxing6

The Philippine Inquirer: http://www.inquirer.net/specialrepor...0081129-175167

[MUNG]

Damn i actually thought this was goin to be good!! So the commission ruled they were legal wraps and freddie threathened to use the same technique, how exciting, de la hoya drained himself, yeah we knew that too

[xAUGUSTUSx]

WTF are you idiots talking about? Everyone knows Oscar starved himself. This was no secret it was on the PPV. This is'nt some behind the scenes footage. I've seen all this before. All these fighters **** with their hand wraps. I've told you all of this before. Thats why Everyone should just STFU about Margarito doing it. People have to realize their was some crooked **** going down with GBP's that night. They delivered a big blow to Top Rank. There's lots of stuff that goes on behind the scenes that people don't understand. Margarito did'nt have plaster. It was dirty old dryed up gauze used as knuckle pads. It just worked out to be convenient for Mosley's camp to use that against him that night. It threw Marg off for the fight. I'm not saying he would've won. But when you have something like that on your mind you can't exactly concentrate properly. This was also a way for GBP's to really stick it to Top Rank. Just in case some of you don't know they are rival promotional companies.

[Franco2012]

Roach also complained about Barrera s wraps.

[MACAQUEINBLACK]

But the video is created by Karceno

But what you can take from the video isn't about Karceno or his opinions.


Whether the stuff was out there in a couple articles or not, it was still little-known info generally speaking.

I'm not even just talking about the stuff to do with Pac. There's the stuff about the wrapping of Oscar's hands.


Who cares about Karceno (except the other set of **** fanboys)? The interesting stuff in the video has nothing to do with him. He didn't doctor any of that footage.



I don't really care about the Floyd = woman beater thing. LOL, why are you even raving to me about that?

[Pacquiao'd]

The video isn't about Karceno.


It's a bunch of revealing interviews from the Pacquiao-De La Hoya PPV broadcast, unexpurgated.

this is what the *******s fail to realize. they are a sad bunch

[letsgobrady]

interesting vid