Who hits Harder? Manny, Miguel or Shane?

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  • Agent Mulder
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    #11
    Originally posted by M@nny
    I only listed some fights for an analytical discussion. If your simplistic mind created a triangle, then that's on you.
    your analytical discussion wouldn't be trying to propose that Manny(not you, but the one you worship) is the harder puncher...right?

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    • Ganondorf
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      #12
      Originally posted by M@nny
      Miguel decisions Shane

      Margarito TKOs Miguel

      Shane TKOs Margarito

      Manny TKOs Miguel

      What can be gathered from these four fights?
      Margarito beat Cotto because he cheated. Shane TKO'd Marg because Marg is sooooo damn slow and Shane hits sooooo damn hard and just overwhelmed Marg with speed and volume. Miguel decisions Shane because Shane has always struggled with skilled boxers..(not that Cotto is a great boxer but neither is Shane.) Manny TKOs Miguel because either Miguel COULD NOT or WOULD NOT keep Manny under control. Miguel's biggest boxing flaw is his footwork and Manny is very fast on his feet so he was able to spin him around and throw crazy combos.

      Bottom Line:
      Shane Mosley: Is a SLUGGER. NOT a BOXER
      Antonio Margarito: In theory Margarito is a Decent boxer if he was just a little faster. He has a long jab that could be effective but it's hard for anybody that slow to outbox anybody. Margarito IS NOT a SLUGGER. He DOES NOT have 1 punch KO power with both hands
      Miguel Cotto: Is a boxer/puncher with decent speed and a hellacious chin. As previously stated Cotto was unable to deal with Manny's volume and speed.
      Manny Pacquiao: The best fighter of the list. Definitely the most complete. He overwhelms all these other guys with speed and volume. Manny is not without his flaws though and they would be exposed by Mayweather and Mayweather alone. ie (No ability to adjust!-Any time Manny has recently been tested, Manny started and stopped the fight with the same attack plan in the Marquez fights. Once Marquez adjusted Manny could not adjust. What happens when his spinning bulls**t doesn't work because he finds he doesn't hold a footspeed advantage over his opponent?, What happens when Manny fights a seasoned boxer that can fight on the outside or inside LIKE MAYWEATHER and can force Manny to fight a BHOP/Andre Ward type of fight? What then? Can Manny clinch? Does he know what to do on the inside?)

      Sorry I kind of got carried away.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Ganondorf
        Margarito beat Cotto because he cheated. Shane TKO'd Marg because Marg is sooooo damn slow and Shane hits sooooo damn hard and just overwhelmed Marg with speed and volume. Miguel decisions Shane because Shane has always struggled with skilled boxers..(not that Cotto is a great boxer but neither is Shane.) Manny TKOs Miguel because either Miguel COULD NOT or WOULD NOT keep Manny under control. Miguel's biggest boxing flaw is his footwork and Manny is very fast on his feet so he was able to spin him around and throw crazy combos.

        Bottom Line:
        Shane Mosley: Is a SLUGGER. NOT a BOXER
        Antonio Margarito: In theory Margarito is a Decent boxer if he was just a little faster. He has a long jab that could be effective but it's hard for anybody that slow to outbox anybody. Margarito IS NOT a SLUGGER. He DOES NOT have 1 punch KO power with both hands
        Miguel Cotto: Is a boxer/puncher with decent speed and a hellacious chin. As previously stated Cotto was unable to deal with Manny's volume and speed.
        Manny Pacquiao: The best fighter of the list. Definitely the most complete. He overwhelms all these other guys with speed and volume. Manny is not without his flaws though and they would be exposed by Mayweather and Mayweather alone. ie (No ability to adjust!-Any time Manny has recently been tested, Manny started and stopped the fight with the same attack plan in the Marquez fights. Once Marquez adjusted Manny could not adjust. What happens when his spinning bulls**t doesn't work because he finds he doesn't hold a footspeed advantage over his opponent?, What happens when Manny fights a seasoned boxer that can fight on the outside or inside LIKE MAYWEATHER and can force Manny to fight a BHOP/Andre Ward type of fight? What then? Can Manny clinch? Does he know what to do on the inside?)

        Sorry I kind of got carried away.
        True story.

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        • Ganondorf
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          #14
          Originally posted by Hyacinth
          your analytical discussion wouldn't be trying to propose that Manny(not you, but the one you worship) is the harder puncher...right?
          Whoops I forgot to answer the question. Shane hits WAY harder than any of these men. In fact I think Mosley's power is comparable to that of Trinidad.

          I don't even wish to try to compare Pac and Margarito as neither are one punch KO artists, and both are not power punchers but indeed VOLUME PUNCHERS

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          • Unknown Champ
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            #15
            when has mosley koed someone with one punch?

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              #16
              mayorga...vargas should have been stopped from the kd but ref let im continue for some reason

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              • tocayito1
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                #17
                manny pacquiao with peds is the biggest puncher

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                • infamous larryx
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by bearman3000
                  when has mosley koed someone with one punch?
                  mayorga and vargas...with one lefthook a piece

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by bearman3000
                    when has mosley koed someone with one punch?
                    I guess you can count vargas 2?

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by bearman3000
                      when has mosley koed someone with one punch?
                      I'm assuming by KO you mean either knocking his opponent unconscious, or being damaged by one punch to the point to where his opponent could not make referee's count. If I'm not mistaking Shane still holds the highest KO percentage of any lightweight with at least 20 fights or something.


                      Ricardo Mayorga, Adrian Stone, Wilfredo Rivera, Golden Johnson, Wilfredo Ruiz, Manuel Gomez, Michael Smith, Elias Quiroz, Mauricio Aceyes, Raul Hernandez, Jose Luis Madrid, John Bryant, Lorenzo Garcia, Francisco Rodriguez, Paulino Gonzalez, Juan Manuel Aranda, Miguel Pena, Roberto Urias, Pey Castillo, Arunulfo Villa, and finally Greg Puente.


                      I understand you are probably thinking to yourself "Wait a minute, I thought we were just talking about one-punch KO power?" Indeed, with all those stats it's hard to determine which fights were ended as a direct result to power alone or just volume. The last person Shane KO'd with a power shot was Mayorga, although it can be argued that it was one great shot that put Cheato on ***** street but I don't count that because he kept getting up until ref waived it off. Who was the last person Manny Pacquiao rendered an opponent unable to continue as a direct result of power from a single blow?

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