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Did Mosley all of a sudden become "shot" after he beat Margarito......
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I'm beginning to wonder myself. He had no trouble at all letting the bombs fly against Margs but he was super hesitant against Floyd, which is understandable due to Floyd's speed and reflexes but against Mora too? Mora punches like a flyweight and Mosley had numerous opportunities to tag him up but looked like he didn't know which punches to throw. It's like he has forgotten how to fight, no jab and limited power shots....he should call it a day at this point.Comment
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I think Shane was done before the Margarito fight.
I also think that Margarito is an average fighter who if it weren't for his exceptional chin and workrate (and maybe a lil added help.
Alledgedly.) would be at best a club fighter and that even if past his best, a great fighter like Mosley should beat him handily.
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When Margarito and Mosley were scheduled to fight in Vegas,,,, about 7 weeks before the fight, a Federal Judge (out of concern for Margarito's well-being) released Mosley's EPO blood doping calendar to the public, that showed how Mosley injects EPO through his stomach, and on which days.
When Mosley's EPO usage calendar was released (about early December 2008), Nevada boxing commissioner-Keith Kizer warned Mosley that he would be blood tested for the illegal/banned stamina booster-EPO, before fighting Margarito.
When Mosley was warned by the Nevada Commission, he was worried he would get caught with EPO, so he had his buddies (Oscar & Shaeffer) move the fight from Nevada to California (LA's STAPLES CENTER), cause Mosley knew that california only does post fight urine tests, which will NOT detect EPO.
Margarito's promoter (Bob Arum) knew that Mosley was pulling this sleazy stunt, but cared less, cause he was gonna profit from a, then, proposed Mayweather Jr vs Mosley fight (which took place on May 2010), cause he agreed with Oscar, to conspire, this dirty ploy.
That''s why the California boxing commission officials allowed Margarito to try to use plaster inserts, cause they all knew that Mosley was "juiced-up" with EPO, and was not gonna get caught, and Margarito was being "backstabbed" by his very own promoter.
Margarito doesnt say anything, cause Mosley has filed a federal lawsuit against Conte, so that he can place a GAG order on anyone that makes public staments. Thats why Margarito is being silent, about Mosley being "juiced-up" when he fought him.Comment
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stylistically...................SHANE excel against straight coming fighters........MARG didnt have his cast on......................too..........lolComment
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Cause he is not "shot"...
Past his prime? Yes. "Shot"? No.
As I stated before (after the Floyd fight), Shane will still be able to win fights, he has all the tools to do so (those tools being a chin, power, and still okay speed).
Just don't let the facts get in the way of smart thinking...Shane is old, and past his prime. Don't ever make the mistake of thinking otherwise. Shane at this point in his career, will have trouble with movement, and fighters with good hand speed. Shane will always have a punchers chance, but any good boxer will give him problems...At this point.Comment
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here's another article, to add (Part 1 of 2):
The former headquarters for Victor Conte’s BALCO empire was in Burlingame, under the final approach for planes landing at San Francisco International Airport. From the airport, it was a short ride. Five minutes. Maybe less.
But on July 26, 2003, Shane Mosley and strength coach Derryl Hudson flew into Oakland airport on the other side of San Francisco Bay. Conte had to send a limousine to pick them up and cart them over the San Mateo Bridge. It was an aberration on a day with an overarching theme of efficiency.
Conte quickly had Mosley, then 32, taken to a nearby clinic to have his blood drawn and tested. Then the four of them – Conte, BALCO VP Jim Valente, Mosley and Hudson – gathered in BALCO’s offices and got down to business.
“Mosley,” Conte later stated in a court declaration, “acknowledged that he wanted to increase his strength and endurance for his world championship boxing match against Oscar De La Hoya.”
The fight was in Las Vegas on Sept. 13. They had seven weeks.
Conte, according to his account of the meeting, wrote up a doping calendar with the initials “S.M.” at the top and handwritten notations for what to take on which days. Then he began putting various pills and substances on his desk. Some were legal vitamins and nutritional substances. Three were not.
There was The Clear, a liquid that later became known as THG, an undetectable anabolic steroid that he had been giving to his track athletes and that one track coach referred to as “rocket fuel.” There was The Cream, a lotion Conte used as a masking agent; it tricked even the most advanced drug testers by keeping the body’s levels of testosterone at normal levels.
Then there was the bottle Conte says was labeled “Procrit.”
Conte produced a syringe and showed Mosley how to use it, flicking it and pushing up the plunger to remove air bubbles. You didn’t inject the entire dose in one place but half into each side of your stomach – the double injection technique.
“I understand from reviewing studies,” Conte said in a court declaration, “that splitting the dosage and using two injection sites can increase saturation and the effectiveness of the drug compared to a single 1 cc injection.”
Then, Conte says, he handed the syringe to Mosley and watched him inject his first dose.
The liquid in the bottle allegedly was erythropoietin, or EPO. Originally developed and manufactured by U.S. pharmaceutical giant Amgen, it is a synthetic version of the hormone made by the kidneys that stimulates the body’s production of red blood cells. Cancer patients use it after chemotherapy. People suffering from anemia use it. People with malfunctioning kidneys use it. So do professional cyclists and distance runners to illicitly boost endurance by increasing their concentration of red blood cells that carry oxygen to muscles.
The game changer.
Mosley’s doping calendar called for injections of E, the code for EPO, every other day for the first two weeks of the regimen, then once a week after that. His final injection was scheduled for Sept. 8, five days before the fight and plenty of time to clear his system for a post-fight drug test.
And indeed, Mosley’s urine test did not come back positive after he scored a 12-round unanimous decision over De La Hoya to win two world title belts and become the only person to beat boxing’s “Golden Boy” twice. He was free and clear.
Except for one slight problem.
On Sept. 3, 10 days before the fight, federal agents raided BALCO headquarters, seizing files from Conte’s office that included doping calendars and shipping receipts. The feds also got emails, letters, canceled checks and results of laboratory tests conducted on the stable of elite athletes – baseball players, football players, Olympic track stars and one famous boxer – whom Conte allegedly serviced.
Three months later Mosley was back in the Bay Area, sitting in the witness box of a San Francisco court house and testifying before a federal grand jury. Answering questions about The Clear and The Cream. Answering questions about the bottle labeled “Procrit” and the injections into each side of his stomach.
Asked about it last week on a media teleconference ahead of the Jan. 24 fight against Antonio Margarito in Los Angeles, Mosley said: “I’ve put this stuff aside since 2004. People want to bring it up. I don’t even listen. … My whole thing is Margarito. I don’t even care about all that.”
Mosley has filed defamation suits against Conte, claiming he was “misled” by Conte and that he “unknowingly” used what he later learned were performance-enhancing substances banned by most international anti-doping agencies. One of the defamation suits is still pending.
Hudson in turn sued Mosley, saying in a court declaration that
Mosley “admitted to me that he knew the drugs provided to him by Mr. Conte were illegal performance-enhancing drugs.”
De La Hoya has not pressed the issue, telling Newsday that “Shane is such a good guy” and noting that “he’s a partner in my (Golden Boy Promotions) company.” But the World Boxing Council has launched an investigation, and the executive director of the Nevada State Athletic Commission admits his organization explored ways – ultimately unsuccessful – to strip Mosley of his victory over De La Hoya.
The big issue for boxing, though, isn’t Mosley and his protracted legal battles with Conte and Hudson; or whether he knew what he was doing when, as he admitted to the federal grand jury, he injected EPO in the weeks before the 2003 De La Hoya fight; or what the WBC investigation might determine; or whether De La Hoya should file some sort of grievance; or whether an acclaimed “good guy” would ever knowingly do something so deceitful.
The big issue for boxing might be EPO itself.
Mosley was trailing on all three judges’ cards as the 2003 fight entered the eighth round – 68-65 on two cards, 67-66 on the third.
But De La Hoya, then 30, started to tire while the 32-year-old Mosley seemed to catch his second wind. Two of the three judges gave Mosley the eighth round. All three gave him the ninth. All three gave him the 10th. All three gave him the 11th. All three gave him the 12th.
The decision: 115-113, Mosley, on all three cards.
Mosley said afterward he could have gone another 12 rounds, and he probably was only half kidding. There was another, telling statistic associated with the bout that didn’t emerge publicly until years later: Mosley’s hematocrit levels.
Hematocrit is the proportion of a person’s blood volume filled with red blood cells that are so vital in transporting oxygen to muscles. Court documents say Mosley’s hematocrit when Conte had it a measured on July 26, 2003, was 44, within the normal range for a healthy male. On Aug. 8 Conte advised Mosley to have his blood drawn and tested by a clinic in Big Bear, Calif., where the fighter’s training camp was based.
The reported hematocrit from that test was 52.2, nearly a 20-percent increase in a mere 13 days. Training at altitude, experts will tell you, can elevate a person’s concentration of red blood cells. But not that much. Not that fast.
“(Conte) told me that, you know, the hematocrit level was supposed to be at a certain level,” Mosley told the federal grand jury on Dec. 11, 2003. “And, like, cyclists and a lot of long distance runners and stuff like that use it … he explained that to me. And I said, ‘OK, that’s something I can do to get my endurance as high as it can possibly be.’”
How high is 52.2?
Beginning in 1997, professional cyclists were regularly subjected to blood screens before major races. Anyone with a hematocrit above 50 is banned from competing for 15 days.Comment
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