Ortiz got his swagger back...Alexander is Taylor Made for Vicious...Discuss...

[tito_bandito]

don't belive the hype. vivian was OLD shot & broken down before he fought victor. vivian in his very last fight before ortiz got KO'D. thats sad if anything because ortiz should be fighting better guys then this. i believe kotelnik would even have a good shot at beating ortiz.

Dood we all know Harris was shot and stuff like that...the thing we're making a big fuss about is that Ortiz went back to his old style with adjustments...some ppl thought it would be a UD for Ortiz but he KO'd him in the 3rd round which is something Lucas Matthysee couldn't do and he's 24-0-22 KO's he won a BS stoppage over Harris...ppl forget that Ortiz has similar power to Maidana...actually I think Ortiz hits harder than Maidana cuz Maidana has to **** back his fist to let his power unleash...Ortiz is sharp and crisp with his punches and knocked Maidana down twice...point being is that Ortiz went back to his old self and you will keep seeing early stoppages as his career goes on...his last fights were him looking to put rounds in his belt his corner kept telling him to hold back...now he has a statement to make...

[..WaRSpencE..]

Bradley would give Ortiz some trouble but I think Ortiz can take those pitty pats cuz Bradley is no Maidana and Ortiz showed that he faught differently with Maidana...Ortiz whipes out Bradley mid rounds or by a UD...I can see Bradley being broken down by the bigger man in Ortiz...

Pitty Pats?..lol..

Bradley is mentally too tough to be "broken down" he's been rocked by much harder punchers..

Bradley packs enough punch to make Ortiz gun shy again..and is slick enough to avoid Ortiz' shots..nobody at 140 ****s with Bradley..except maybe CON

[£-4-£]

Khan beats everybody at 140.

- Close UD win over Bradley
- TKO's Maidana
- UD vs. Alexander
- Late TKO vs. Ortiz
- Wide UD vs. Kotelnik (again!)

Out of all of them, Ortiz has the best chance because he's
a good boxer, has speed as well as power. Khan did beat him in the amateurs but that's not at all relevant, it was 6 or 7 years ago.

I'd even go as far as saying that Ortiz has only a puncher's chance against Khan, purely because I can't see him out-boxing Khan. Khan's movement, speed and jab are all awesome. His chin isn't as bad as people make it out to be (I think he was weight-drained at 135, that played a big part imo and his conditioning is much better now too) but it isn't a good chin by any stretch - in other words, Ortiz is more than capable of KO'ing Khan is he catches him flush.


WARRRRRRR KHANNNNNNN!

[Phenom]

I think he beats Alexander he would KO Maidana in a rematch but that fight not happening because marcos is losing to khan. Amir is a toss up fight but I would favor him to beat khan and Bradley I think will get the decision again Victor but I he has a decent chance of beating Bradley.


hopefully he gets Alexander next since thats the fight I want to see more then Bradley vs Alexander. If not I will like the Khan vs maidana winner or a kotelnik fight

[Bushbaby]

In Alexander's toughest fight,he didn't dominate,but his workrate & heart held the day!!Styles make fights!!No one can sit there an say that at 140,1 single person can dominate.Alexander has good skills & a decent punch,Ortiz has good skills but a questionable heart!!I believe Alexander has the skills to match Ortiz & the bigger will to win.1 fight does not take away from Alexander,who's been facing champions constantly

[americanbot]

Dood we all know Harris was shot and stuff like that...the thing we're making a big fuss about is that Ortiz went back to his old style with adjustments...some ppl thought it would be a UD for Ortiz but he KO'd him in the 3rd round which is something Lucas Matthysee couldn't do and he's 24-0-22 KO's he won a BS stoppage over Harris...ppl forget that Ortiz has similar power to Maidana...actually I think Ortiz hits harder than Maidana cuz Maidana has to **** back his fist to let his power unleash...Ortiz is sharp and crisp with his punches and knocked Maidana down twice...point being is that Ortiz went back to his old self and you will keep seeing early stoppages as his career goes on...his last fights were him looking to put rounds in his belt his corner kept telling him to hold back...now he has a statement to make...

well......I see no point in it because you can fight which ever way you feel against bums. A challenge will FORCE you to switch up your style & game plan. harris was stopped in his last fight.

i just don't see it......

[americanbot]

In Alexander's toughest fight,he didn't dominate,but his workrate & heart held the day!!Styles make fights!!No one can sit there an say that at 140,1 single person can dominate.Alexander has good skills & a decent punch,Ortiz has good skills but a questionable heart!!I believe Alexander has the skills to match Ortiz & the bigger will to win.1 fight does not take away from Alexander,who's been facing champions constantly

they are using the kotilnik fight against alexander. it's foolish because ortiz & kotelnik don't fight alike. ortiz has more power then kotelnik, but alexander can deal with power. ortiz doesn't have near the stamina & heart as kotelnik & thats what beat alexander......alexander simply got tired. both alexander & ortiz pretty much fight at the same pace.

i don't see how ortiz would "dominate" alexander.....

[Phenom]

they are using the kotilnik fight against alexander. it's foolish because ortiz & kotelnik don't fight alike. ortiz has more power then kotelnik, but alexander can deal with power. ortiz doesn't have near the stamina & heart as kotelnik & thats what beat alexander......alexander simply got tired. both alexander & ortiz pretty much fight at the same pace.

i don't see how ortiz would "dominate" alexander.....

Ortiz will outbox Alexander because Victor is the better boxer Ortiz has a great jab and Alexander showed he is easy to hit. stylewise I think Khan and Ortiz will beat Alexander in the division

[tito_bandito]

they are using the kotilnik fight against alexander. it's foolish because ortiz & kotelnik don't fight alike. ortiz has more power then kotelnik, but alexander can deal with power. ortiz doesn't have near the stamina & heart as kotelnik & thats what beat alexander......alexander simply got tired. both alexander & ortiz pretty much fight at the same pace.

i don't see how ortiz would "dominate" alexander.....

Let me point out why I used Koltelnik against Alexander...Koltelnik is a patient fighter, but he is there to be hit and then he will hit you more accurate and will break you down as the fight goes on...Ortiz is a patient fighter to, but the difference is that Ortiz bops and weaves and makes you miss your punches, and when the time is right he will throw a devistating punch, and if you make that same mistake Ortiz will capitalize on that and then throw a combination that will have you on the floor before you know it...it's not so much that he looks for the KO if you look at how many punches he throws per round, but his accuracy will knock you out, basically if you throw a punch at Ortiz you end up fcking yourself up cuz he will hit you back twice as hard when you miss, that's also probably why campbell decided not to throw and be in a shell with Ortiz...in the Maidana fight Ortiz didn't bop and weave and just stood there to exchange although he was more accurate Maidana broke him down in a fight Ortiz was winning...

[americanbot]

we'll all see. hopefully these fights are made.

you can say this fighter will do this & that but in till the've actually done it, it's meaningless. triangle theories NEVER work.

a lot of guys who you "think" are the goods are gonna get beat up.

the division has many surprises styles wise.