if hopkins beats pascal..where does that place him historically

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  • daggum
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    #11
    Originally posted by We Need Hints
    I hate Hopkins, but it would place him pretty highly.

    One of the top MWs of all time, 2x The Ring LHW champion

    Only clear loss of his career to Calzaghe at age 43.

    Wins over Pavlik, Winky Wright, Tarver, De La Hoya, Joppy, Trinidad, Glen Johnson.
    only clear punch calzaghe landed was to hopkins balls. a split decision loss where most knowledgeable people had hopkins winning cause fights are scored on clean punches not air punches. but but compubox!
    Last edited by daggum; 09-14-2010, 10:42 PM.

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    • infamous larryx
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      #12
      hopkins has a great resume already

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      • sweetpea87
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        #13
        Hopkins will beat Pascal and it will be an amazing accomplishment.

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        • check hook
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          #14
          Originally posted by Don LarryX
          he'd be he linear champ at 46


          don't rate Pascal that highly..........Dawson had an off night....he will win the rematch handily. Hopkins was quick to fight Pascal as it gets him a win over Dawson by "default" as he is not willing to fight Dawson.

          Realistically Hopkins has a very good shot at beating Pascal.

          @ 46 it would still be a feat though.

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          • BennyST
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            #15
            Originally posted by Gorilla Dogs
            GOAT...


            jk. top 20 imo. Id be VERY surprised if he pulls it off.


            I really want my boy Pascal to win tho. Hes a good guy
            He's be getting up there, but not top twenty. I don't think he could ever reach top twenty now. He's certainly an ATG of incredible caliber and this win would be truly amazing at 46.

            Would it make him the oldest champion ever? Foreman at 45, Hopkins at 46. Wow.

            But, I think he's underestimating Pascal somewhat. The guy can fight in and out and really scrap. Very quick....and can punch well. Don't know, it's a real pick 'em fight.

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              #16
              Originally posted by BennyST
              He's be getting up there, but not top twenty. I don't think he could ever reach top twenty now. He's certainly an ATG of incredible caliber and this win would be truly amazing at 46.

              Would it make him the oldest champion ever? Foreman at 45, Hopkins at 46. Wow.

              But, I think he's underestimating Pascal somewhat. The guy can fight in and out and really scrap. Very quick....and can punch well. Don't know, it's a real pick 'em fight.

              The speed is the key for Pascal.....if he can use it effectively he will beat Hopkins.....otherwise i think Hokins sees some flaws he can exploit.

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                #17
                Originally posted by daggum
                only clear punch calzaghe landed was to hopkins balls. a split decision loss where most knowledgeable people had hopkins winning cause fights are scored on clean punches not air punches. but but compubox!
                Calzaghe is shit but he won that fight.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by check hook
                  don't rate Pascal that highly..........Dawson had an off night....he will win the rematch handily. Hopkins was quick to fight Pascal as it gets him a win over Dawson by "default" as he is not willing to fight Dawson.

                  Realistically Hopkins has a very good shot at beating Pascal.

                  @ 46 it would still be a feat though.
                  Even though I totally agree with you on this, Pascal even if not that good won that fight and is the legitimate LHW champion of the world.

                  Its very impressive if Hopkins wins even if its done in a dull manner.

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                  • joelab75
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by daggum
                    only clear punch calzaghe landed was to hopkins balls. a split decision loss where most knowledgeable people had hopkins winning cause fights are scored on clean punches not air punches. but but compubox!
                    come on man! i dont like calzaghe but he did beat Hopkins. dont even go there. there was no robbery. even if there was a rematch Hopkins would still lose.

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                    • etlux
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Don LarryX
                      he'd be a staple in history..would he be top 30??
                      bhop would be greatest middleweight of all time easily

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