Comments Thread For: Pavlik To Start Camp on Monday, Eyes Felix Sturm

[APryor]

he didnt beat the **** out of him it was a close fight that Pavlik was gaining momentum in until the cut late in the fight. Martinez clearly won and the cut was caused by a punch but it was closer then is made out to be now.

Exactly right.

[Heru]

rewatch the fight up until the second cut Pavlik was in control and had momentum going his way. In the 9th round (i think) when Pavlik got that second cut from the punch he did want to quit and did get ****ed up from then on i agree but before that this fight was on even terms.

I rewatched the fight and the HBO announcers were serving a bowl of trash up. Martinez wasn't winning the rounds big, but he wasn't allowing Pavlik to land any clean punches and they were acting as if he swept up those rounds. Martinez was even winning the round he got the BS KD called in.

To me, if you're getting beat down the way Martinez was doing to Pavlik in those last rounds consecutively, it's a beat down whether it was competitive before that or not. Cotto-Pacquiao and Cott-Judah were competitive for some of the first halves, when do you start calling it a beatdown?

[ShoulderRoll]

yeah all those headbutts, lowblows, rabbit punches, and hitting on the break all fight will wear anybody two divisions smaller out....lets see if he can do the same thing against a cruiserweight...

Hopkins didn't do any of that dirty stuff against Pavlik. He just straight up schooled him with boxing.

[djtmal]

Hopkins didn't do any of that dirty stuff against Pavlik. He just straight up schooled him with boxing.

too bad he couldn't school calzaghe...his equal

the 1 fight he didn't have to pull out the switchblade....pavlik was too slow at that weight anyways...

still, i'd be impressed if he mugged/mauled or took a cruiserweight to school...

[Pin Galarga]

Pavlik needs a big win, He needs a big fight. He needs a drink too.

[ShoulderRoll]

too bad he couldn't school calzaghe...his equal

We're talking about Pavlik though. How is Calzaghe even relevant?

[djtmal]

We're talking about Pavlik though. How is Calzaghe even relevant?

because hopkins has a knack for handpicking two divisions smaller fighters to beat up on, but when it comes time to beat a fighter equally sized and talented, he fails every time....in other words, why is this fighter always getting overrated accolades for beating up on smaller men...

for the record, pavlik's a good fighter...not great, but he was able to beat taylor twice, something hopkins failed to do...plus win or lose, he's never in a dull fight...he gets my respect for fighting equally sized men, as well as moving up two divisions and challenging a natural lightheavy

[ShoulderRoll]

And for the record Hopkins beat the socks off of Pavlik. Clean, no dirty tactics needed.

Didn't even have to use his weight advantage. It was all skill.

[djtmal]

And for the record Hopkins beat the socks off of Pavlik. Clean, no dirty tactics needed.

Didn't even have to use his weight advantage. It was all skill.

yeah he has skills against slow fighters out of their weight division..., but put him in there with someone his size and talent and its a different story...pavlik must be hopkins biggest triumph in boxing...pavlik...who we all know is a cut below elite b fighter....pavlik...lol

[King Ju-Ju]

It should read "if" he dispatches Edouard. Pavlik is a spent bullet.

pavlik might not be as spent as u think. sergio martinez isnt exactly a bum. he did lose 2 a legit fighter.