Morales, Pacquiao, Barrera...who's the best?

[amaru]

Kennedy Mc Kinney yes, Jesus Salud yes, Johnny Tapia,OK, but Enrique Sanchez is a no,

He still lost to Jr Jones and Pacquiao, , Morales cant be punished and looked down for beating them like your argument seems to argue when you state, if Barrera beats Pac, Barrera is quite even, Fact is Barrera still lost to Manny and Erik has not.


Remember Morales has also beaten Barrera, he can beat Barrera, Barrera just happened to win one fight more, not 2, like you make it out to seem, Barrera doesnt have Morales number

where did i say that morales is being punished for beating opponents barrera failed to beat??? i aint discrediting morales achievements. hes an excellent fighter, but the losses barrera has had have been against top fighters, not journey men or bums, there is no shame that barrera has lost to junior jones, pacquaio or morales, all these fighters who have beaten barerra have been world champions, theirs no shame in losing to quality fighters.

you say i make it out to seem that barrera has won two fights and im right, thats a fact, im not making it out to seem like that because its true.

the reason why people think morales is better than bareera is because of the way morales fights, he entertains us, thrills us, he wants us wanting more, hes easily one of if not THE most exciting fighter today, but this shouldnt cloud peoples judgements into thinking he is better than barrera. barreras record of fights and top quality opposition is similar to morales, no one can deny this, barrera is also a 3 weight champion..... just like morales, they are basically eachothers equals. however, barrera beatin him twice and in my opinion barrera goin up in weight and defeating morales at 130lbs is a far greater achievement than what morales has done. i aint even knocking morales, he is a GREAT fighter but i just cant see how people think hes better than barrera when they have similiar resumes, are both 3 weight champions and barrera has beaten him more times.

thats just like me fighting someone, i beat them up but because they have beaten up people i cant beat up there better then me?? it just dont make sense, if i beat someone up i should be the better fighter so why cant you see this in barreras case??

[Tha_Greatest]

where did i say that morales is being punished for beating opponents barrera failed to beat??? i aint discrediting morales achievements. hes an excellent fighter, but the losses barrera has had have been against top fighters, not journey men or bums, there is no shame that barrera has lost to junior jones, pacquaio or morales, all these fighters who have beaten barerra have been world champions, theirs no shame in losing to quality fighters.

you say i make it out to seem that barrera has won two fights and im right, thats a fact, im not making it out to seem like that because its true.

the reason why people think morales is better than bareera is because of the way morales fights, he entertains us, thrills us, he wants us wanting more, hes easily one of if not THE most exciting fighter today, but this shouldnt cloud peoples judgements into thinking he is better than barrera. barreras record of fights and top quality opposition is similar to morales, no one can deny this, barrera is also a 3 weight champion..... just like morales, they are basically eachothers equals. however, barrera beatin him twice and in my opinion barrera goin up in weight and defeating morales at 130lbs is a far greater achievement than what morales has done. i aint even knocking morales, he is a GREAT fighter but i just cant see how people think hes better than barrera when they have similiar resumes, are both 3 weight champions and barrera has beaten him more times.

thats just like me fighting someone, i beat them up but because they have beaten up people i cant beat up there better then me?? it just dont make sense, if i beat someone up i should be the better fighter so why cant you see this in barreras case??

Once again, he beat Morales twice but you fail to mention he has a one win edge with the wins being easily arguable to be able to go the other way, one fight edge, yes he beat Morales twice but fact remains, its a one fight edge, close fights as well, very close wins for Barrera over Morales, Morales is the more exciting fighter who fights the tougher opponents and has beaten the 2 men that Marco FAILED to beat.


Also Morales has never been Knocked OUT cold or knocked out at all,

Of course Bar is gonna have more victories than Morales, hes at least 3 years older or more,

[amaru]

Once again, he beat Morales twice but you fail to mention he has a one win edge with the wins being easily arguable to be able to go the other way, one fight edge, yes he beat Morales twice but fact remains, its a one fight edge, close fights as well, very close wins for Barrera over Morales, Morales is the more exciting fighter who fights the tougher opponents and has beaten the 2 men that Marco FAILED to beat.


Also Morales has never been Knocked OUT cold or knocked out at all,

Of course Bar is gonna have more victories than Morales, hes at least 3 years older or more,

morales has beaten barrera once, i aint denying this, ill say it now so you dont think im ignoring this, and if you wanna start bringing debatable wins and close decisions into this in regards to with you mentioning the barrera vs morales fights, then we can say that morales was fortuante to beat guty espades when they first fought, fortunate to beat a one armed jesus chavez, and you could say that barrera was unlucky to lose his second fight with junior jones, that result could easily have gone to barrera.

like i said before im not denying that morales is the more exciting fighter, ive said this in my previous posts, just because hes exciting does not mean he is better, so because naseem hamed had never been KO'D does this make him better than barrera?? just because youve been KO'd it does not make you a worse fighter, morales most probably has he better chin than barrera but barrera overall is the better fighter.

[Tha_Greatest]

morales has beaten barrera once, i aint denying this, ill say it now so you dont think im ignoring this, and if you wanna start bringing debatable wins and close decisions into this in regards to with you mentioning the barrera vs morales fights, then we can say that morales was fortuante to beat guty espades when they first fought, fortunate to beat a one armed jesus chavez, and you could say that barrera was unlucky to lose his second fight with junior jones, that result could easily have gone to barrera.

like i said before im not denying that morales is the more exciting fighter, ive said this in my previous posts, just because hes exciting does not mean he is better, so because naseem hamed had never been KO'D does this make him better than morales?? just because youve been KO'd it does not make you a worse fighter, morales most probably has he better chin than barrera but barrera overall is the better fighter.

I guess its really a matter of opinion cause either way, both guys have a great argument, of whos better, and right now Morales is the hotter fighter, coming off his win from Pac, but im in opinion that Morales is at edge ,youre vice versa, as long as you dont try to come up with a Manny is #1 of the 3, Manny is out of topic today, in time he may be at their level or maybe past it

[amaru]

I guess its really a matter of opinion cause either way, both guys have a great argument, of whos better, and right now Morales is the hotter fighter, coming off his win from Pac, but im in opinion that Morales is at edge ,youre vice versa, as long as you dont try to come up with a Manny is #1 of the 3, Manny is out of topic today, in time he may be at their level or maybe past it

well said, even though i think barrera is better than morales, you bring great arguements to the table as to why you think morales is better than barrera, and there facts and valid points, i guess we will agree to disagree and i can respect that and i respect your opinion. at the end of the day both fighters are great, both fighters are hall of fame fighters, both are living legends, and both of them are 3 weight champions and will go down in history. morales and barrera are both great fighters.

[Manny_P]

Next year! We will see what happens and who really is ta best. If Morales beats Pac again, then he is, NO ARGUMENT TA BEST! We will see. If Pac KOes Morales in ta rematch, WHICH HE WILL, then Pac will be ta best NO ARGUMENT.

[Tha_Greatest]

Next year! We will see what happens and who really is ta best. If Morales beats Pac again, then he is, NO ARGUMENT TA BEST! We will see. If Pac KOes Morales in ta rematch, WHICH HE WILL, then Pac will be ta best NO ARGUMENT.

If PacMan beats my man, Erik, Pacman solidifies his greatness and he will belong in this argument of whos the best of the 3, this will be the argument , whos the better man, Morales ,Barrera and PacMan,

PacMan still has his next shot at Erik and Manny wants to fight anyone WORTH mentioning, He already fought 3 of the best Mexicans today, He quite arguably has beaten J.M.Marquez, he did destroy Bar, and at Pacs young age, more is to come,

[Manny_P]

THere would be no argument homie becuz, IF PAc KOes Morales........hes beaten all 3 of ta thoughest opponents in the lower divisions convincingly (wit ta exception of Marquez).


so you think Pac don't belong in tis argument???!!!! You're an idiot! I'm out!

[Tha_Greatest]

THere would be no argument homie becuz, IF PAc KOes Morales........hes beaten all 3 of ta thoughest opponents in the lower divisions convincingly (wit ta exception of Marquez).


so you think Pac don't belong in tis argument???!!!! You're an idiot! I'm out!

me and others said not yet, if he wins my man, Erik , definitely he has alot of talent so he has time to win, and do so much more, stated that again, We cant get ahead of ourselves and assume he will beat Morales when the fight hasnt taken place, Like i stated before, if Pac beats Erik, hes definitely in this topic, If you are correct and Pac KOs Morales , he may wind up with a better career, argualy though

[SliqueJab]

I believe if Pac will use that slugger gloves instead of that pillow gloves he has better chance of knocking Morales out. But if the fight go to distance, Morales will win. If they slug it out, there's no doubt Pacman will knock Morales and also Barrera and Marquez. Pacman is much quicker and he has most power. However there's no way Pacman can beat this guys technically.