Morales, Pacquiao, Barrera...who's the best?

[Ali_is_the_greatest17]

I cant believe how Pacquiao is last place in the voting..

I think he deserves to be first hands down.

[Tha_Greatest]

Hard to tell really. Cuz it is all a matter of styles.

Morales has beaten all styles he has fought,and fought Barrera to even ass fights in 1 and 3 fight and was plain robbed in 2nd fight, and Barrera has not beaten all styles, Morales still accomplished more, Morales can fight anyones style and beat them at their style

[Tha Greatest]

Morales has beaten all styles he has fought,and fought Barrera to even ass fights in 1 and 3 fight and was plain robbed in 2nd fight, and Barrera has not beaten all styles, Morales still accomplished more, Morales can fight anyones style and beat them at their style

I would like to see Hamed-Morales

[amaru]

Morales beat opponents like , Carlos Hernandez, Kevin Kelley, Guty Espadas, Jesus Chavez, Junior Jones(the man that Barrera accomplished to lose too, twice), Wayne McCollough,Manny Pacquiao and legendary Daniel Zaragosa.

On Barreras resume, his biggest victory comes over a overated Prince Hamed overated Naseem Hamed(who was considered #1 pound for pound by many)before the Barrera fight, that victory put Barrera as the best Mexican fighter today in when he beat Hamed.
Many people i named on Morales resume are better than Hamed

you gotta remember apart from prince naseem hamed barerra has also beaten kennedy mckinney, jesus salud, enrique sanchez, kevin kelly, tapia and erik morales twice, hes a 3 weight champion too just like morales, both barrera and morales resumes are just about even, look at their overall resumes not just recently. perhaps recently morales level of competition has been better than barrera but overall they both have fought good or great opponents and won. barrera has accomplished exactly what morales has done, hes won more fights, he has lost more but the thing that seperates the two is the fact that barerra has beaten him twice. if barerra gets in the ring and beats pacquiao (it wont be easy) then i dont think this is not even up for debate. i think barerra is the best out of the three and just edges out morales ....... but not by much. there all great fighters though so we as fans are gonna benefit from them.

[Tha_Greatest]

I would like to see Hamed-Morales

Morales would destroy Hamed, it would be hilarios, remember Hamed Vs Barrera, Hamed had the ref keeping Barrera off him, Barrera was throwing Hamed to the ground, choking Hamed, Hamed was scared, it was hilarios, at the end of the fight Hameds will to fight was gone, he was exposed by Barrera

[fatpom]

Firstly. Pac-man doesn't really come into the aquasion. He has only fought 3 top of the line opponents so far in his career. With a record of 1-1-1. His victory over Barrera was fantastic, But based on Mabs record, longjevity, quality of oposition, big wins & all around skill & accomplishments. I don't see how he can be rated over these two guys.

Pac was really exposed & outboxed by Marquez for 11 rounds & again by Morales. Both close fights, with Manny showing great heart but just lacking in the supreme skills those guys have. It's also no insult to be ranked behind two all-time mexican ledgends & 3 weight champions in MAB & Morales.

It's a tough call to make between Mab & Morales. Both all time greats & HOF bound. And will be mentioned together for the most part. The big plus Mab has is his 2-1 record over Erik. But IMO thier trilogy is even (At least the way I scored it) The 1st fight has got to be one of the toughest fights to score. I had it even & that is with the bogus knockdown in the 12th. The second fight I had Morales winning clearly but closely & vice versa for the 3rd with Mab winning closely but clearly. So I don't consider thier head to head records definitive enough to seperate them.
But if you put thier records side by side I think Morales has his nose infront.
Morales - Zaragosa, Jones, McCullough, Mab, Kelly, Espadas, Chi, Ayala, Chavez, Hernandez, Paquiao (Probably the best resume in boxing.)

While Barrera has - Morales, Hamed, Ayala, Kelly, Tapia, McKinny as his biggest wins. The edge here is clearly to EM.

But the real thing that seperates these two IMO. Is thier losses.
Morales has only ever lost to one guy. And a HOF guy at that. Not to mention they were both Razor thin desisions. And he has never been knocked out.

Barrera has lost to Jones x2 & Pac-Man in brutal fashion. Both guys Morales has beaten.
Even the furture looks brighter for Morales as he has a real shot a moving into the lightweight devision. A move that would end this argument once & for all.

Morales > MAB > PAC.

[Tha Greatest]

Firstly. Pac-man doesn't really come into the aquasion. He has only fought 3 top of the line opponents so far in his career. With a record of 1-1-1. His victory over Barrera was fantastic, But based on Mabs record, longjevity, quality of oposition, big wins & all around skill & accomplishments. I don't see how he can be rated over these two guys.

Pac was really exposed & outboxed by Marquez for 11 rounds & again by Morales. Both close fights, with Manny showing great heart but just lacking in the supreme skills those guys have. It's also no insult to be ranked behind two all-time mexican ledgends & 3 weight champions in MAB & Morales.

It's a tough call to make between Mab & Morales. Both all time greats & HOF bound. And will be mentioned together for the most part. The big plus Mab has is his 2-1 record over Erik. But IMO thier trilogy is even (At least the way I scored it) The 1st fight has got to be one of the toughest fights to score. I had it even & that is with the bogus knockdown in the 12th. The second fight I had Morales winning clearly but closely & vice versa for the 3rd with Mab winning closely but clearly. So I don't consider thier head to head records definitive enough to seperate them.
But if you put thier records side by side I think Morales has his nose infront.
Morales - Zaragosa, Jones, McCullough, Mab, Kelly, Espadas, Chi, Ayala, Chavez, Hernandez, Paquiao (Probably the best resume in boxing.)

While Barrera has - Morales, Hamed, Ayala, Kelly, Tapia, McKinny as his biggest wins. The edge here is clearly to EM.

But the real thing that seperates these two IMO. Is thier losses.
Morales has only ever lost to one guy. And a HOF guy at that. Not to mention they were both Razor thin desisions. And he has never been knocked out.

Barrera has lost to Jones x2 & Pac-Man in brutal fashion. Both guys Morales has beaten.
Even the furture looks brighter for Morales as he has a real shot a moving into the lightweight devision. A move that would end this argument once & for all.

Morales > MAB > PAC.

Great post, karma for you..

[Tha_Greatest]

you gotta remember apart from prince naseem hamed barerra has also beaten kennedy mckinney, jesus salud, enrique sanchez, kevin kelly, tapia and erik morales twice, hes a 3 weight champion too just like morales, both barrera and morales resumes are just about even, look at their overall resumes not just recently. perhaps recently morales level of competition has been better than barrera but overall they both have fought good or great opponents and won. barrera has accomplished exactly what morales has done, hes won more fights, he has lost more but the thing that seperates the two is the fact that barerra has beaten him twice. if barerra gets in the ring and beats pacquiao (it wont be easy) then i dont think this is not even up for debate. i think barerra is the best out of the three and just edges out morales ....... but not by much. there all great fighters though so we as fans are gonna benefit from them.

Kennedy Mc Kinney yes, Jesus Salud yes, Johnny Tapia,OK, but Enrique Sanchez is a no,

He still lost to Jr Jones and Pacquiao, , Morales cant be punished and looked down for beating them like your argument seems to argue when you state, if Barrera beats Pac, Barrera is quite even, Fact is Barrera still lost to Manny and Erik has not.


Remember Morales has also beaten Barrera, he can beat Barrera, Barrera just happened to win one fight more, not 2, like you make it out to seem, Barrera doesnt have Morales number

[Tha Greatest]

Morales is the best...

but Barrera is my favorite..

[Tha_Greatest]

Firstly. Pac-man doesn't really come into the aquasion. He has only fought 3 top of the line opponents so far in his career. With a record of 1-1-1. His victory over Barrera was fantastic, But based on Mabs record, longjevity, quality of oposition, big wins & all around skill & accomplishments. I don't see how he can be rated over these two guys.

Pac was really exposed & outboxed by Marquez for 11 rounds & again by Morales. Both close fights, with Manny showing great heart but just lacking in the supreme skills those guys have. It's also no insult to be ranked behind two all-time mexican ledgends & 3 weight champions in MAB & Morales.

It's a tough call to make between Mab & Morales. Both all time greats & HOF bound. And will be mentioned together for the most part. The big plus Mab has is his 2-1 record over Erik. But IMO thier trilogy is even (At least the way I scored it) The 1st fight has got to be one of the toughest fights to score. I had it even & that is with the bogus knockdown in the 12th. The second fight I had Morales winning clearly but closely & vice versa for the 3rd with Mab winning closely but clearly. So I don't consider thier head to head records definitive enough to seperate them.
But if you put thier records side by side I think Morales has his nose infront.
Morales - Zaragosa, Jones, McCullough, Mab, Kelly, Espadas, Chi, Ayala, Chavez, Hernandez, Paquiao (Probably the best resume in boxing.)

While Barrera has - Morales, Hamed, Ayala, Kelly, Tapia, McKinny as his biggest wins. The edge here is clearly to EM.

But the real thing that seperates these two IMO. Is thier losses.
Morales has only ever lost to one guy. And a HOF guy at that. Not to mention they were both Razor thin desisions. And he has never been knocked out.

Barrera has lost to Jones x2 & Pac-Man in brutal fashion. Both guys Morales has beaten.
Even the furture looks brighter for Morales as he has a real shot a moving into the lightweight devision. A move that would end this argument once & for all.

Morales > MAB > PAC.

The best post in this thread, great post,no bias , just facts, you put it clearly