Bernard Hopkins: Not an ATG?

[SCtrojansbaby]

He might beat Hagler. I am not saying he won't. But, he is not doing it easy as that poster claims. Fact is no MW in the history of the sport is having an easy time with a prime Hagler.

The problem is that I think people see Hagler as this come forward face first brawler and that is it. But, Hagler had more dimensions to his game.

And, the Spinks comment...... Well that is just ridiculous.

What advantages does Hagler have against Hopkins?

Hand Speed
Defense
Physicality
Size
Power
Discipline
Chin


all for B-Hop

[jrosales13]

And, I been thinking about it since Bully made that Whitaker comment.

I think Ricardo Lopez was more fundamentally technical skilled than Whitaker. Don't get me wrong Whitaker had great defense, the greatest defensive fighter of my lifetime. Was a super talent but technically he did things you weren't suppose to like have your hands down or pull straight back. The thing is he just had the reflexes to get away. And, Whitaker is the more talented fighter and by far the greater fighter and that is not even debatable. But, technically fundamental skills Lopez was damn near perfect. As perfect as you could get IMO.

Viva Finito

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What advantages does Hagler have against Hopkins?

Hand Speed
Defense
Physicality
Size
Power
Discipline
Chin


all for B-Hop

i would question all of these....?? Chin and Discipline woud have to be on par or advantage to Hagler.

[jrosales13]

What advantages does Hagler have against Hopkins?

Hand Speed
Defense
Physicality
Size
Power
Discipline
Chin


all for B-Hop

I am not sure all those are for B-Hop and plus there are more attributes that you have to factor in.

However, I am not saying Hagler would win. What I am saying no MW is having an easy time with Hagler.

Maybe you should do more research on Hagler and what he bring to table. And, while you add it do more research on Michael Spinks. Because, your last psot said a lot about your knowledge about Spinks.

[SCtrojansbaby]

IMO Roy and B-Hop would both beat Spinks with ease

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IMO Roy and B-Hop would both beat Spinks with ease

@ 175...........you do realise Spinks went from 175 to HW and took Larry Holmes '0' in his first fight in that division??

[Safety]

The Dude is the only guy to KO oscar ( sides TKO pac) and TKO Tito.
:O
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He beat Glen Johnson by TKO or KO!!!!!!
cmon now!

[SCtrojansbaby]

i would question all of these....?? Chin and Discipline woud have to be on par or advantage to Hagler.

No way B-Hop is IMO the most disciplined fighter of all time. I have never once not for a second seen B-Hop not under control.

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No way B-Hop is IMO the most disciplined fighter of all time. I have never once not for a second seen B-Hop not under control.

You do know Bhop cites Hagler's practice of only ever being a few pounds above his chosen weight class as the reason he so diligently monitors his weight......down from training even when not in camp and eating correctly. Hagler is also renowned for his manical approach to training......discipline comes in many forms.

[SCtrojansbaby]

You do know Bhop cites Hagler's practice of only ever being a few pounds above his chosen weight class as the reason he so diligently monitors his weight......down from training even when not in camp and eating correctly. Hagler is also renowned for his manical approach to training......discipline comes in many forms.

I meant discipline as far as in the ring. When doing the fantasy matchup you are supposed to assume the fighter is in there absolute peak form.