Calzaghe and Warren are idiots...

[Martin (Top Knowledge)]

PLEASE stop your bull****.

Calzahe doesn't want to fight those guys. Never did. If he did, he would have set himself up by fighting decent fighters in AMERICA to get exposure. It's very simple. He has NEVER fought outside of Europe and rarely out of the UK. If he was SERIOUS about fighting Tarver, Jones, Hopkins, he would get the **** out of England for once, and get RID of Frank Warren. Frank Warren is a joke, and everyone knows it. He's as bad or worse than Don King with all the options he demands. Why the **** would anyone go to England to fight when Calzaghe has never made a name of himself, pulls out of fights left and right, and continues to stick with the British Don King, aka Frank Warren.

You're starting to sem pretty hypocritical. Saying Calzaghe would hammer Mundine anyway. We jones fans say that about certain fighters Jones might have fought, and you just dismiss it as ducking.

Exposed.

Oh no!... Please don't expose me Super_Lightweight!... LOL!...

Your boy Roy Jones certainly travelled the World fighting the best didn't he?... LOL!...

I think I know a little bit more about this particular subject than you do, with regards to your comments -

Calzaghe and Warren MAY have offered fights to Hops, etc, and of course, being that you are a biased fool, as proven over and over again, you will continue to believe that Warren's offers were even close to reasonable.

You see I know that Bernard was offered $6,000,000 to fight Calzaghe in Las Vegas and Bernard fought Carl Daniels, Morrad Hakker, and William Joppy for a combined $4,000,000.

Your posts are becoming more and more off the wall these days Super_lightweight, like an angry kid (The teenager angry at his mum & dad or something?)... Please don't bring it on to the forums.

[Cletus Funk]

hey frank. yea warren is a medium comparison to the kingdonking but there are so many similarities, hand picked refs and judges etc.etc.king goes nuts on the options.

but i'm wondering. i havent made the rounds on my favorite boxing sites lately. is that an opinion about the warren options thing on mundine or have you heard more over there? what you say makes sense but the last i read was from bxngtlk from mundines camp with no response from warren.

refresh my memory but calzaghe wasnt demanding that the hopkins fight be held overseas did he.if so hell hop would have had to knock him out to get the win.

oooh... if you dont like rjj you cant wait for the tarver fight.
an inshape well trained focused tarver is going to hurt roy.there must be money involved to make rjj want to tyson it.

The Mundine story wasn't even worthy of making the papers over here so it was the first I'd heard of it on this site.

I can't remember where the Hopkins fight would have been but he wasn't and still isn't really big box office so I would have thought the only way to make the figures add up was to have it over here. You can make all the claims that you like but in reality the majority of overseas fighters are treated nothing but fairly in the UK.

I can't wait for the Tarver fight, but I actually want RJJ to win. I was a huge fan of his until he started taking us all for a ride, but I still like him more than Tarver who's a B+ fighter with an A+ mouth at best.

[SliqueJab]

In boxing, best boxers come to America to fight. They don't come to UK to measure themselves. If Calzaghe really wants to measure himself against the best, they have to come to America just like BArrera, Morales, Pacquiao and most of the world's best. It's kinda lame to call UK world champion if he never fought in America. This is boxing and America is the place where bext boxers measure their place. It's like in basketball, best ballers come to America to measure themselves, and unlike soccer where the best comes to Europe. In boxing, if you want to measure how good you are, you have to fight in America and if Calzaghe think he's good just like what every UK suckers think, he need to come to AMerica. If not he will ended up like Dariusz, very impressive record but beating full of bums and has beens. Ring Magazine place Roy Jones named 80 best fighters in the last 80 years while you'll never see Dariusz name. WHy because his record is a suspect.

[rudy]

Calzaghe vs Lacy will not happen if he is asking for options against Mundine, he will would want to have Jeff Lacy for the next five years !

I am really surprised he is taking another fight

[Super_Lightweight]

hmm

Your boy Roy Jones certainly travelled the World fighting the best didn't he?... LOL!...

I think I know a little bit more about this particular subject than you do, with regards to your comments -

Pull your head out of your ass, dude. Roy didn't need to travel the world. The states is where it is, where the respect, recognition, and best fighters are. He was already here so needed to go nowhere.

Like I said, you are a hypocrite and have been exposed. Talk the same old boring ****...starting to sound like JUYJUY.

You see I know that Bernard was offered $6,000,000 to fight Calzaghe in Las Vegas and Bernard fought Carl Daniels, Morrad Hakker, and William Joppy for a combined $4,000,000.

I bet you would stick your hand in a moose's ass if someone told ya there was gold in there. Wow. Yeah, I'm sure that was a genuine offer (given Warren and Joe's past pullings out) and I'm sure that Warren didn't demand options. I'm also sure you believe everything you read that affirms your shaky position.

[Super_Lightweight]

You really have turned into an idiot over the last couple of months, or maybe you were just hiding it all along? Saying Warren is as bad as King if not worse just exposes your ridiculous national bias. Nobody even comes close to being as di****able as King.

I find it hilarious that you actually seem to believe the story coming from Mundine's camp. Who the hell would want options on Mundine? The guy's going nowhere and only looked half-decent against Kessler because he was fighting with a back injury. How can someone dismiss Calzahge's level of competition with one hand and then demand that he fights Mundine with the other? Calzghe's already beaten several fighters who'd wipe the floor with Mundine.

You're a true RJJ fan. Explain to me again how RJJ flat-out ignoring fights with McLellan, Benn, Eubank, Collins, Darius M??? etc is comparible to dismissing the Mundine fight as pointless.LOL.

Notice how you brought the issue back to RJJ when this post has nothing to do with him. Cong**** for avoiding the situation.

Like I said...you criticize Roy for not fighting ppl, but when Joe's camp won't fight a top 10 168 lbs fighter without demanding options on his next 4 fights if he wins (and dont bull**** me, you know Warren pulls this **** all the time) you ignore it or excuse. Wake the **** up. It is your nationalistic bias that has been exposed. If I was biased I'd be sittin' here saying how King is the man and Warren is ****. Both are ****. Understand this, son. Simple reading comprehension.

And that story didn't come from Mundine's camp. You would like to think so I bet. You are dumb as hell if you think Warren would NOT get options on Mundine if Mundine had beaten Joe C. By the ****ing way, *******, I never "dismissed" Joe's comp. It could be better, but I damn sure don't dismiss it. It ain't great though that's for sure.

[theironone]

Jesus you two are starting to sound like a couple of old hags

[Cletus Funk]

Notice how you brought the issue back to RJJ when this post has nothing to do with him. Cong**** for avoiding the situation.

Like I said...you criticize Roy for not fighting ppl, but when Joe's camp won't fight a top 10 168 lbs fighter without demanding options on his next 4 fights if he wins (and dont bull**** me, you know Warren pulls this **** all the time) you ignore it or excuse. Wake the **** up. It is your nationalistic bias that has been exposed. If I was biased I'd be sittin' here saying how King is the man and Warren is ****. Both are ****. Understand this, son. Simple reading comprehension.

And that story didn't come from Mundine's camp. You would like to think so I bet. You are dumb as hell if you think Warren would NOT get options on Mundine if Mundine had beaten Joe C. By the ****ing way, *******, I never "dismissed" Joe's comp. It could be better, but I damn sure don't dismiss it. It ain't great though that's for sure.

A 16 year old calling me son...classic.

Read your post again dumbass, you're the one who brought up Jones.

When someone else posted the story a few days ago it was a direct quote from one of Mundine's team so shut the **** up. Again I ask, who the **** would want options on Mundine, let alone make it a deal breaker? He was nothing but a warm up who obviously wanted too much money. Use your brain.

You're turning into a laughing stock boy so reel yourself in.

[Martin (Top Knowledge)]

Pull your head out of your ass, dude. Roy didn't need to travel the world. The states is where it is, where the respect, recognition, and best fighters are. He was already here so needed to go nowhere.

Like I said, you are a hypocrite and have been exposed. Talk the same old boring ****...starting to sound like JUYJUY.



I bet you would stick your hand in a moose's ass if someone told ya there was gold in there. Wow. Yeah, I'm sure that was a genuine offer (given Warren and Joe's past pullings out) and I'm sure that Warren didn't demand options. I'm also sure you believe everything you read that affirms your shaky position.

Did you read my post at all???... I'll repeat it. Stop bringing your "I'm angry at my Mum and Dad" teenager ****e to the forums.

I guess I should thank you for once again "exposing" me?... What the f**k are you talking about?... LOL!...

Kiddo, you just fly off the handle at everything you disagree with... You'll never acquire decent boxing knowledge if you conduct that attitude. If you're not willing to listen to someone else's opinion and take it on board then like I've said to you before. - We have an expression in England, "an ostrich with its head in the sand".

If you want to learn about professional boxing and the dealings that happen then you should drop the whole "assumption" act, and listen to some people that actually come from Britain and know a lot more about the dealings that are going on with British fighters.

Otherwise, you're just another kiddo boxing know it all - "an ostrich with its head in the sand".

[Guest]

Well is Wales part of UK? I'm just trying to prove a point that you British suckers love to hype UK fighters. You guys love to talk about how Calzaghe will do this to Hopkins and all that. His record may look impressive but who did Calzaghe fought. this guy has not been tested. So start talking when he actually did something because right now, he's grossly overrated.

WHAT??? The MAJORITY of the fighters he's fought since 2000 (don't make me look it up, I think it's something like 70-80%) are AMERICAN. One of them (fought twice) is GERMAN and there's an EGYPTIAN in there too. When I said he hasn't fought anyone BRITISH since 2000 that MEANS British. Not British as in "English" like most Americans seem to think it does, but BRITAIN: England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.