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  • ChopperRead
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    #41
    Originally posted by Khmelnytsky
    Please. Haye's actions speak for themselves.

    It was Haye who got grabbed by the throat and thrown to the ground when he tried getting in Vitali's face.
    Haye is a yellow-bellied coward who has pulled out of one fight with Wlad with a fake injury, pulled out of negotiations with Vitali at the last minute,
    and since then has refused even offers more generous than he merits.

    If Haye is putting off fighting one of the brothers until right before he quits next year, it's because he knows either Klitschko will destroy him.

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    • LeadUppercut
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      #42
      Originally posted by ChopperRead
      You're a delusional moron. Davey was choked out by Vitali already and did **** all about it. Wlad getting pushed on his ass by a comparative midget like Haye, are you insane? Davey knew Wlad wasn't going to clock him and cause a scene at Wlad's own charity event.
      The point is..... Haye hardly looked "scared" when he chased Wlad up that escalator, and Wlad seemed careful with a couple of his responses.....
      ..... and you dont fly to Germany to push Vitali off his skateboard when you are "scared".

      You frustrated fan-boys just need to get a grip and see it for how it is

      1.) When Haye had nothing, he was desperate to fight a Klitschko
      2.) K2 ****ed that up by low-balling him
      3.) Haye fought golem and won the WBA belt
      4.) Haye is no longer desperate to fight a Klitschko

      You think Haye is scared, coz you know you would be, nothing more.

      Chill dude, Haye will get what's coming to him when he is ready.

      He doesn't have to work by your schedule, or K2's for that matter.

      He is the WBA Heavyweight World Champion, so that huge payday will be there whenever he wants it

      He is a cherry-picker.
      Last edited by LeadUppercut; 09-12-2010, 06:50 PM.

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      • Dave Rado
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        #43
        Originally posted by WAR FERGIE
        Haye would be the biggest name mouth on Wlads resume pretty sad considering haye has had like 4 HW fights
        Fixed it for you.

        Haye has achieved nothing meaningful at Heavyweight. He's not a big name based on achievement, only based on his mouth. He's a snake oil salesman, nothing more. And it's obvious that he doesn't think he has a hope in hell of beating Wlad, otherwise he wouldn't have turned down a 50/50 deal to fight Wlad in order to fight someone ranked outside the top 40.
        Last edited by Dave Rado; 09-12-2010, 07:38 PM.

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        • Dave Rado
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          #44
          Originally posted by LeadUppercut
          The point is..... Haye hardly looked "scared" when he chased Wlad up that escalator,
          The point is he's scared of losing, so he wants to cash out first. He's an emotional coward, rather than a physical one. If he thought he had a decent chance of beating Wlad he'd have had no reason, financial or otherwise, to turn down the 50/50 deal he was offered to fight him this year.

          And he's also a cynical snake oil salesman, trying to convince the British public that he really wanted to fight Wlad this year, when he clearly didn't. Although the British press are even more cynical, as without a single exception that I'm aware of, they're going along with that pretence.
          Last edited by Dave Rado; 09-12-2010, 07:53 PM.

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          • Dave Rado
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            #45
            Originally posted by LeadUppercut
            I agree with the first part - the bolded part.
            Haye isn't a world champion. By definition it is only possible for there to be one world champion in any weight division at a given time. Currently the world Heavyweight champion is Wlad Klitschko. Haye is an alphabet belt holder, and that's it.

            And he won that belt by narrowly beating a man generally ranked #6 in the world at the time, in which he only managed to get a majority decision. His punch output was one of the lowest in Heavyweight history, and it was an extremely unimpressive display.

            His first defence was against someone generally ranked well outside the top 20, who hadn't had a decent win in 6 years. In that fight, he showed himself to be utterly incapable of defending himself against anyone with a good jab.

            His second defence will be against someone generally ranked well outside the top 40, who has never had and will never have a decent win as a pro in his life.

            That's not the sort of behaviour that someone who genuinely wanted to reinvigorate the Heavyweight division - as he keeps claiming he does - would indulge in. He's just a snake oil salesman. That's it.
            Last edited by Dave Rado; 09-12-2010, 08:02 PM.

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            • Leo Pradun
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              #46
              Originally posted by LeadUppercut
              The point is..... Haye hardly looked "scared" when he chased Wlad up that escalator, and Wlad seemed careful with a couple of his responses.....
              ..... and you dont fly to Germany to push Vitali off his skateboard when you are "scared".

              You frustrated fan-boys just need to get a grip and see it for how it is

              1.) When Haye had nothing, he was desperate to fight a Klitschko
              2.) K2 ****ed that up by low-balling him
              3.) Haye fought golem and won the WBA belt
              4.) Haye is no longer desperate to fight a Klitschko

              You think Haye is scared, coz you know you would be, nothing more.

              Chill dude, Haye will get what's coming to him when he is ready.

              He doesn't have to work by your schedule, or K2's for that matter.

              He is the WBA Heavyweight World Champion, so that huge payday will be there whenever he wants it

              He is a cherry-picker.


              Hayes is a scared ass *****, there is nothing more to it. K2 offered Haye 50-50 on everything except german tv revune and Haye claims thats why the fight wasnt made. Sounds like a fair deal to me, why should they share the german tv revenue with him?

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              • BillyBoxing
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                #47
                Originally posted by LeadUppercut
                I agree with the first part - the bolded part.

                People need to get a grip - especially the fan-boy kids.

                But I do not agree with your summary.

                Before he won the WBA title Haye was ready to fight either Klitschko, and when he stormed up to Wlad on that escalator, he hardly looked scared.

                Wlad would have got shoved on his asss if he reacted the wrong way, and he knew it.

                I believe that Haye intentionally priced himself out of the latest round of negotiations because he stands to make MUCH MORE MONEY fighting lesser guys, before he is pushed into a unification bout as a career finale.

                He is obviously not scared of either Wlad nor Vit.
                It's because when he was on that escalator he had the image of an unconfident,average shape Wlad who get Dropped by Peter 3 times and was confused by lil Ibragimov or Calvin Brock for few rounds..
                Since things have changed...

                The fact that Chambers who beat easy a 6.7 Dimitrenko couldn't land a single punch on Wlad,Chambers being as fast or faster than Haye,makes the Diva thinks twice about Wlad being a easy to hit chinny bum like Barrett or Enzo Mac.

                The performance against Peter will not help.
                Peter was in good shape for once and rabbits punches (Haye and Peter are experts) don't work anymore against a very focused and confident Wlad.

                It's two scary cold kos in a row...against way harder chinned fighters than Haye.

                On that escalator,Haye hasn't been yet credited of a ****tier performance against Valuev than a 147 years old Holyfield and Chagaev who lost every seconds of the fight against Wlad.

                Tough Haye destroyed Ruiz,he was tagged all night long by Ruiz jab,he was getting hit.Against Wlad,with that power,it's unforgivable.
                Wlad doesn't get hit,or rarely.

                Haye knows better than me all those points.
                Haye isn't ******,he knows he has to cash out with this fight and has poor chances to win.

                He just thinks,or knows fans,especially casuals in UK are ****** and ignorants and the UK medias will support him to death because in UK boxing the Union Jack is more important than boxing itself.

                Cherry on the cake,Haye is fighting Fraudley,and only an injury that stops his career could help him at this point.

                I don't think he's scared,he just deeply him and his trainer he has a very small chance to beat Wlad,and a faded Vit could be the easier way out.

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                • BillyBoxing
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by LeadUppercut
                  The point is..... Haye hardly looked "scared" when he chased Wlad up that escalator, and Wlad seemed careful with a couple of his responses.....
                  ..... and you dont fly to Germany to push Vitali off his skateboard when you are "scared".

                  You frustrated fan-boys just need to get a grip and see it for how it is

                  1.) When Haye had nothing, he was desperate to fight a Klitschko
                  2.) K2 ****ed that up by low-balling him
                  3.) Haye fought golem and won the WBA belt
                  4.) Haye is no longer desperate to fight a Klitschko


                  You think Haye is scared, coz you know you would be, nothing more.

                  Chill dude, Haye will get what's coming to him when he is ready.

                  He doesn't have to work by your schedule, or K2's for that matter.

                  He is the WBA Heavyweight World Champion, so that huge payday will be there whenever he wants it

                  He is a cherry-picker.

                  "1.) When Haye had nothing, he was desperate to fight a Klitschko"
                  He still has nothing,this WBA belt is a paper belt.

                  "2.) K2 ****ed that up by low-balling him"
                  50-50 wasn't low ballingHaye officially admited he priced himself out.

                  "3.) Haye fought golem and won the WBA belt"
                  Chagaev was the real champ,and Golem get beat by Oldyfield worse than Haye did(if Haye convincingly beat him) in his previous fight.

                  "4.) Haye is no longer desperate to fight a Klitschko"
                  OBVIOUSLY.
                  And will be even less after seeing rock headed Peter sleeping on the canevas .

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                  • LeadUppercut
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Dave Rado
                    Haye has achieved nothing meaningful at Heavyweight. He's not a big name based on achievement, only based on his mouth. He's a snake oil salesman, nothing more.
                    agree

                    Originally posted by Dave Rado
                    And it's obvious that he doesn't think he has a hope in hell of beating Wlad, otherwise he wouldn't have turned down a 50/50 deal to fight Wlad in order to fight someone ranked outside the top 40.
                    Hold on, that doesn't make him a coward ?

                    It makes him a cherry-picker.

                    Obviously, Haye will take that FKN HUGE payday, when he is ready.

                    Wlad = 30m
                    Fraudley + Wlad = 45m

                    I am pretty sure that I can see what's up.

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                    • LeadUppercut
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Dave Rado
                      The point is he's scared of losing, so he wants to cash out first. He's an emotional coward, rather than a physical one. If he thought he had a decent chance of beating Wlad he'd have had no reason, financial or otherwise, to turn down the 50/50 deal he was offered to fight him this year.
                      Nobody is attempting to brand Haye an "emotional coward".

                      These kids are trying to make out that he's hiding in the sandpit pee'ing his pants

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