Is The Heavyweight Division Piss Poor?

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  • Iceta Lives
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    #21
    Guys like Ike Ibeaubuchi would've killed all of the top ten Heavyweights of today and only the Klits of course would stand a chance against him. Hell, Tommy the Duke Morrison would've beaten probably a lot of the top fighters in the Heavyweight division today. The divsion that Lewis ruled was actually better than both when the Klits and Tyson ruled it.

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    • victorythagr8
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      #22
      Originally posted by DET. IRONSIDE
      Adamek, Chagaev, Haye...all doing a lot better than US fighters right?
      well which one of them fought the Wlad and vitali to even compare em to our garbage american hw.


      **** the Light heavy division is weak as hell and American admitted that when chad dawson was the guy there.

      Even the welterweight division is weak american will admit that and floyd is number 1 in that division.


      The heavyweight division always been weak as hell since the mike tyson days.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Grand Champ
        hate to say it Emz but you don't belong in this section, you belong in the lounge where you can make you Taylor Swift fan club. Your boxing knowledge is laughable for debating against what I said.
        would you be interested in joining my Taylor Swift fan club? As for new members we give you plenty of make up, hair gel and also pink lip gloss

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        • dj Ramos
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          #24
          Originally posted by Grand Champ
          if you call the holmes and Tyson era for the golden era as in the 70's witch is the TRUE golden era you my friend is an idiot. You rate spinks and frank bruno to be the master of that era?

          You need to read up on boxing my ignorant friend.
          Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Holmes, Tyson>>>>>>>>Klits and you know that so gfto wth this

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            #25
            Originally posted by dj emz
            would you be interested in joining my Taylor Swift fan club? As for new members we give you plenty of make up, hair gel and also pink lip gloss
            maybe some other time, now the men are discussing boxing.

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              #26
              Originally posted by dj emz
              Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Holmes, Tyson>>>>>>>>Klits and you know that so gfto wth this
              lets not twist this. You said Holmes and Tysons era where better and said told me to do some dumb **** after that. I'm still wating for you to debate why spinks, bruno and mckneely are that much better competition and why Buster douglas could go in a fight a MAJOR underdog and beat Tyson 2 years before being sentanced to jail. Was fatty douglas that major of an ATG you're screaming about?

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                #27
                Originally posted by victorythagr8
                well which one of them fought the Wlad and vitali to even compare em to our garbage american hw.


                **** the Light heavy division is weak as hell and American admitted that when chad dawson was the guy there.

                Even the welterweight division is weak american will admit that and floyd is number 1 in that division.


                The heavyweight division always been weak as hell since the mike tyson days.
                But America used to dominate.

                Since the mid-70s American diet has gotten worse and worse and theres not even an American hope. Welterweight is dripping with US contenders but theres not one US contender in HW.

                HW requires great diet almost from birth, aswell great training, and the US diet has taken a turn for the worse since processed foods started getting sold so massively. Hamburger Helper isn't a help, its a drain. You have to admit that much.

                And regarding the Chagaev did well against them. He's looking to fight Haye as a mandatory soon. Adamek should be coming up for a fight with the Klits soon.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Grand Champ
                  lets not twist this. You said Holmes and Tysons era where better and said told me to do some dumb **** after that. I'm still wating for you to debate why spinks, bruno and mckneely are that much better competition and why Buster douglas could go in a fight a MAJOR underdog and beat Tyson 2 years before being sentanced to jail. Was fatty douglas that major of an ATG you're screaming about?
                  I said Tyson era was way better then the booty klits era. Spinks alone is better then anyone the Klits have faced. Tyson would lay the Klits out in a span of 6 rounds.

                  Tyson lost to douglas because he wasnt in the right mind set and had a LARGE amount of distractions.

                  When it comes down to it Tysons legacy will be remembered, not so sure about the Klits

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by dj emz
                    I said Tyson era was way better then the booty klits era. Spinks alone is better then anyone the Klits have faced. Tyson would lay the Klits out in a span of 6 rounds.

                    Tyson lost to douglas because he wasnt in the right mind set and had a LARGE amount of distractions.

                    When it comes down to it Tysons legacy will be remembered, not so sure about the Klits
                    C'mon he is remembered more for his antics outside the ring, crazy lifestyle, and biting Holyfield than beating a long string of bums and paper title holders before getting beaten by Douglas.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Grand Champ
                      was it piss poor during the Tyson and Holmes era. If you know your boxing you can answer that question unbiased.
                      It was piss poor then too but at least Tyson offered light at the end of the tunnel with his brutal KO's.

                      Keep in mind that as bad as the competition was then people flocked to spend thousands of dollars to sit ringside for a fight that would last 90 seconds in some cases.

                      In addition, people were paying ridiculous amounts of money on PPV for the same outcome.



                      That said, Wlad nor his brother, doesn't offer this to their audience despite how lame the competition is in this division now. Henceforth poor ratings and HBO pulling the plug.

                      Apples/Oranges...

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