Comments Thread For: Wladimir Klitschko Makes it Thirteen Straight in Frankfurt

[boxingking500]

when a fighter with so many tools, such talent and physical advantages as wlad has, and performs the way that he does, UNDERACHIEVING, then of course we are going to complain.
first we can complain because it is a hw fight, secondly, watching a superior boxer with all the advantages tip to and ***** foot around for 8 rounds before throwing down the hammer, then HELL YES we can complain.
if all wlad had was a good jab and average right hand then i wouldnt blame him for fighting so stiff, safe and reluctantly...
but he has many TOOLS which he prefers not to use.

where are the body shots?
where are the combinations, no a 1-2 is not a combination.
why not a left hook to the body every once in awhile?
when in close why let sam hug on you, why not a step back and upercut or check hook?

i dont get it.
i give credit for wlad beating his opposition, but these are heavyweights, we expect some fireworks, we expect some chances....

and he barely takes any.

wlad is boring as ***.

complain about lewis, at least the man put combinations together, threw punches with some authority, aggression and bad intentions before the 10th round every fight

wlad doesn't even need to do that, he is fine the way he is, and dominates everyone in front of him

dont fix something that is not broken

[amayseng]

wlad doesn't even need to do that, he is fine the way he is, and dominates everyone in front of him

dont fix something that is not broken

what is broken is there is no excitement in wlads fights.

[NECK SNAPPER]

wlad is the best heavy wt in the world right now.its not very entertaining
because he can win safely. right now vitali is the only one with a chance.
if they truly love the game of boxing they would sign it monday morning.

[fenixbb]

Wladimir intents to fight to the distance because he gets 500000€ for 30 sec advertisement on tv between the rounds. Germans no **** about boxing they think that Klitschko is the no 1 P4P best fighter in the world today Klitschko >>>>> Ali for the Germans just LOL.

[Grimmer]

Maybe not these days, but prime against prime Vitali would beat Wladimir.

I still think Vitali would KO Wlad.

[Dave Rado]

Maybe not these days, but prime against prime Vitali would beat Wladimir.

Wlad is only just entering his prime now. This version of Wlad against a prime Vitali would be a pick 'em fight. Wlad is a better boxer, Vitali is a better fighter. Wlad has a harder punch, and a better jab, Vitali has a tougher chin. It's too close to call.

In any case, Vitali's prime really only ended a year or so ago. Up to then, his loss of speed was more than compensated for by his improvement in ring generalship. Even now, the current version of Vitali would beat the Vitali of ten years ago, because his ring generalship is vastly better than it used to be.

[Dave Rado]

wlad is the best heavy wt in the world right now.its not very entertaining
because he can win safely. right now vitali is the only one with a chance.
if they truly love the game of boxing they would sign it monday morning.

Anyone who loves boxing so much that they would be willing try to knock out a family member whom they loved, for money, would be a seriously mentally disturbed and fucked up individual.

[Dave Rado]

when a fighter with so many tools, such talent and physical advantages as wlad has, and performs the way that he does, UNDERACHIEVING, then of course we are going to complain.
first we can complain because it is a hw fight, secondly, watching a superior boxer with all the advantages tip to and ***** foot around for 8 rounds before throwing down the hammer, then HELL YES we can complain.
if all wlad had was a good jab and average right hand then i wouldnt blame him for fighting so stiff, safe and reluctantly...
but he has many TOOLS which he prefers not to use.

where are the body shots?
where are the combinations, no a 1-2 is not a combination.
why not a left hook to the body every once in awhile?
when in close why let sam hug on you, why not a step back and upercut or check hook?

i dont get it.
i give credit for wlad beating his opposition, but these are heavyweights, we expect some fireworks, we expect some chances....

and he barely takes any.

wlad is boring as ***.

complain about lewis, at least the man put combinations together, threw punches with some authority, aggression and bad intentions before the 10th round every fight

Lewis threw a lot more combinations than Wlad does but that's it. He almost never went to the body or fought on the inside. He almost never took unnecessary risks after Steward became his trainer. Wlad's punches are thrown with just as much authority and power as Lewis's punches were. And Wlad has a much harder jab than Lewis had. Lewis often pawed with his jab, and even when he used it effectively, his jab was far less hurtful than Wlad's jab.

The one big advantage Lewis had in terms of excitement was that he threw a lot more combinations, and occasionally blew out dangerous opponents early because of that, e.g. Ruddock, Golota, Rahman, Grant. I'll give you that. But still, for many of his fights, he was no more entertaining than Wlad is, and was frequently just as over-cautious. And Wlad is gradually coming out of his shell. He's nowhere near as over-cautious as he was 4-5 fights ago.

And the reason he became too over-cautious isn't hard to understand. You talk about all his tools, but you ignore the fact that he has perhaps the weakest chin of any lineal Heavyweight champion since Floyd Patterson. For someone with a chin that weak to become such a dominant champion is an amazing achievement. You can decry the style he's adopted in order to achieve that, but you can't say it wasn't totally understandable that he should adopt such an over-cautious style, and you can't argue with its effectiveness. It's several years since he's even clearly lost a single round to anyone, and yet he's been fighting top 10 fighters the whole time.

[vitali1999]

Just as i thought, Wladdy would knock him out this time, but i didnt know the round, just figured would be late. He has become a fine champion.

[Ravens Fan]

The bottom line is that both Wlad and Vitali are great fighters. And regardless of what their detractors say or do. In ten years or so the both of them will have their place in history somewhere in a small town in upstate New York.