Haye would really test Wladimar

[Mikhnienko]

Yeah I said I'd THINK about him as a contender if he KO'd him.

Chagaev is meat and potatoes to Wlad. He should be the next testing area for Haye.

I wouldn't put him anywhere near Adamek after Harrison but thats where Wlad will go.

Even though Chagaev isn't quite prime i still thought he looked very good vs Meehan. It was the best he's looked in a long while and if Haye were to beat him i'd consider him legit.

In all honesty thought i fully expect King and Haye to pull the puppet WBA strings and use Chagaev's health as a way to strip him of the mandatory status...say he isn't cleared to fight in the UK or some bull****.

[DET. IRONSIDE]

Fair point but I think it depends on the manner of the victory. As lame as Harrison is he is still an Olympic gold medalist and has some name recognition so if Haye KO's him early then it builds his marketability. However you are right if Haye wins unimpressively then it will mean nothing to the world market

The fight is really to get cash into UK boxing. It needs a good wad of the stuff. Good stuff is happenning with the Magnificent Seven next week.

But the more the merrier when it comes to cash and profile.

Otherwise boxing start dying over here.

[bojangles1987]

Not like Peters who look gassed after a couple of rounds, and had horrible tactics! Wladimar really isn't that great, the constant holding, and same old jab followed by the right. Haye wouldn't allow this holding to happen, he is far more lively and has way more technique than the the past Wladimar opponents. Wladimar is very ordinary, there is nothing to suggest to me that he would dominate Haye.

There's plenty to suggest he would dominate Haye.

He's bigger, stronger, has a hammer jab, and a thudding right hand. He has a style that allows him to take full advantage of his strengths and hide his weaknesses. Haye was extremely vulnerable and easy to hit against Ruiz, particularly by the jab. Haye hasn't exactly proven himself to be a stamina wonder at heavyweight. Haye doesn't have a good chin.

And of course, Haye is ducking Wlad, which suggests more than anything else that Haye doesn't think he would beat Wlad. Wlad would jab, jab, jab, and dominate Haye. He'd also be pissed, so I'd take Wlad by KO within 7.

[DET. IRONSIDE]

Even though Chagaev isn't quite prime i still thought he looked very good vs Meehan. It was the best he's looked in a long while and if Haye were to beat him i'd consider him legit.

In all honesty thought i fully expect King and Haye to pull the puppet WBA strings and use Chagaev's health as a way to strip him of the mandatory status...say he isn't cleared to fight in the UK or some bull****.

True if he's with King but I thought Haye was a Goldenboy?

[Uturn]

i think most people have only seen the ruiz and valuev fight and think they know all about haye.
and his opposition throughout his career is better than klits overall resume.

tell me this,why has neither klit unified the titles,i mean even before haye had valuevs title,why no unification vs Valuev?,i think when several people claim that Klits do bad dodgy contracts that its more likely true than not true.

in the ruiz fight he had a month without sparring and still beat a tricky durable ruiz on his ass and beat him up good(although sloppy with some punches).

with valuev fight he outboxed and stunned valuev with a broken hand for most the fight.

Haye has all it needs to beat either Klit,why they get respect i dont know,they fight fat nobodies and drag fights out being very boring and cautious and repetitive.

Haye is fast,powefull,dangerous and exciting to watch,he can defend well and puts furious powerful combinations together and goes to KO people as soon as he can.

he beats klits easy.

also dislike how easily everyone chooses to believe every klitschko statement as truth,they go into no details at all,just claim haye is "*****ingz out", where as haye went into specific details of the contract and it sounds believable and realisitic.
think some people are just hating a british fighter and are super naive,just like those who believe mayweathers every word.

This is something Klits past opponents haven't been able to do. He is quick, durable, can put combinations together. It's funny that some give Haye absolute no chance vs Klits, as they really aren't equipped as some may think. Peters is garbage although i'll give the guy crediit he can damn take a beating in there. Haye would have destroyed Peters tonight.

[The Dreamer]

Fair point but I think it depends on the manner of the victory. As lame as Harrison is he is still an Olympic gold medalist and has some name recognition so if Haye KO's him early then it builds his marketability. However you are right if Haye wins unimpressively then it will mean nothing to the world market

Dude, come on, if the HW Champions themselves have very little name recognition in the US right now (HBO can't even distinguish between the two Klitschko brothers) how much recognition will Harrison a British olympic gold medalist let-down have in the US? This fight does nothing for Haye on winning over the US markets. If he had those intentions he would have fought Adamek, Tua, heck even James Toney in the US by now. Those guys have far more name recognition in the US than Harrison.

Haye just wants to fill his pockets.

[Squizz]

The British ******s are out in full force today

Evidently.

Haye would never be able to absorb the punishment Peter took today. After five rounds Haye would either quit, or get KTFO. Let's not act like Haye has a chin made of granite. Haye has a puncher's chance, and that is it. Just like Peter. But he has even less of a chance than Peter, because he doesn't have the beard that Peter does. I give mad respect to Peter for fighting after taking some of those shots. But I guess he sorta' had to redeem himself after the way he quit against Vitali. IMO, he has redeemed himself.

[Squizz]

And as for Haye, I'm not sure he gets past the likes of Adamek and Arreola. He's fought NOBODY of substance at HW yet. Nobody. And he's going to continue down this path fighting the likes of Audley Hairisson so long as his idiotic fans pay to see him. It's almost as bad at the Amir Kahn situation. Except, it appears although Kahn's been backed into a corner.

Kahn better fight Maidana, or he's gonna' look like a real B.I.T.C.H.

[Uturn]

Evidently.

Haye would never be able to absorb the punishment Peter took today. After five rounds Haye would either quit, or get KTFO. Let's not act like Haye has a chin made of granite. Haye has a puncher's chance, and that is it. Just like Peter. But he has even less of a chance than Peter, because he doesn't have the beard that Peter does. I give mad respect to Peter for fighting after taking some of those shots. But I guess he sorta' had to redeem himself after the way he quit against Vitali. IMO, he has redeemed himself.

Shows how much you know about boxing, get out of this forum when you don't even know what your talking about. Peters is one dimensional where Haye is not, and has far more tools packed in his bag then the very slow, no skill Peters. Haye actually has decent skills but it's obvious you have never even watched him fight for starters with blunders like saying Peter had a better chance than Haye, this should be ridiculed out of this forum. Peters can take one hell of a beating but he only really brought this upon himself tonight because of his lack skills vs Wladimar. Haye has far better movement, is quick, durable, better reflexes than Peters.

So Peters has somehow redeemed himself tonight for just going in there taking punishment but showing no skill to his game what so ever? He can take a beating but a decent boxer would school the one dimensional Peters.

Your views are very blinkered, your attempts are pathetic at saying Haye has less chance then Peters. Haye is far more skilled than Peters, however cannot take a beating like Peters, but he doesn't get hit like Peters did tonight.

[dalbass]

Evidently.

Haye would never be able to absorb the punishment Peter took today. After five rounds Haye would either quit, or get KTFO. Let's not act like Haye has a chin made of granite. Haye has a puncher's chance, and that is it. Just like Peter. But he has even less of a chance than Peter, because he doesn't have the beard that Peter does. I give mad respect to Peter for fighting after taking some of those shots. But I guess he sorta' had to redeem himself after the way he quit against Vitali. IMO, he has redeemed himself.

I think the point people are making is that Haye wouldn't be lumbering around the ring making himself an east target like Peters did. I agree that Haye would not be able to take that kind of punishment but I don't believe he would stand in front of Klitschko getting punched in the face all night. Every fighter deserves respect for getting in the ring and putting their well being on the line but the only thing Peters proved tonight is that he really good at getting punched in the face (a lot).