I'm trying to understand the complaints concerning Pac/Marg..

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Castillo was still able to eek out wins after and climb to at least another title shot and top 10ranking in the 140lb division. Losing to pacquiao at this point may end his career but his performance will at least be a good gauge to see how he may have performed against other top 10 fighters in the 154lb division.

Eke out wins against who? Ngoudjo? He was done-zo.

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Eke out wins against who? Ngoudjo? He was done-zo.

He fared no worse against ngoudjo than Hatton did.

[PainKiller]

#1 @ welter.

Because he beat Marg?

Well if Marg is nothing without his wraps, in most people's opinion, then his whole resume is fake, and the Mosely win was hype without wraps?


Mosley had a long lay off since Marg also, but Marg was tailor made for him.

Since you mentioned 2010.

The previous fight was Mayorga where Mosley didn't look great at all. (154)

Then he lost to Cotto in a close fight.

He did school Collazo though.

If Mosely with over a year lay off could continue to be nubmer one, then Marg IMO is atleast in the top 10.

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So you're pissed that it's for a 154lb title that noone in the past 5 years who has held it really deserved to hold???

People don't like Pac padding his stats.

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He fared no worse against ngoudjo than Hatton did.

Which means he was done .

BTW when did Hatton fight Ngoudjo?

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People don't like Pac padding his stats.

Then say that ****. Dont pretend like the politics surrounding a sanctioning body that still has floyd mayweather jr as their champion emeritus at 154 is pac or margarito's fault.

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Because he beat Marg?

Yes.

Well if Marg is nothing without his wraps, in most people's opinion, then his whole resume is fake, and the Mosely win was hype without wraps?

Are you talking to most people or me? Think.

Mosley had a long lay off since Marg also, but Marg was tailor made for him.

Yes, Mosley had a long layoff after kicking Tony's ass, and Tony had a long layoff after getting his ass kicked.

The previous fight was Mayorga where Mosley didn't look great at all. (154)

Yes.

Then he lost to Cotto in a close fight.

Yes

He did school Collazo though.

Thought you were going somewhere with this - guess not.

If Mosely with over a year lay off could continue to be nubmer one, then Marg IMO is atleast in the top 10.

Top 10 where?

[shadeyfizzle]

Which means he was done .

BTW when did Hatton fight Ngoudjo?

my bad...i mean he fared no worse than malignaggi who was consensus top 3 in the division at the time. lol

[PainKiller]

Yes.

Are you talking to most people or me? Think.

Yes, Mosley had a long layoff after kicking Tony's ass, and Tony had a long layoff after getting his ass kicked.

Yes.

Yes

Thought you were going somewhere with this - guess not.

Top 10 where?

Well what I am saying is that if Mosely is number 1, then how can Marg not be top 10 at 147/150/154?

A long lay off in Mosely and still at number 1 is just a cloud. We didn't know how he would perform VS Berto.

Marg came back and had a poor fight, but it was a tune up. He didn't look bad though, just not great.

At 147, I only see Williams, Pac, Mayweather and Mosely beating him.

At 154, the same names again and Martinez.

I don't think the rest can beat him.

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my bad...i mean he fared no worse than malignaggi who was consensus top 3 in the division at the time. lol

LOL. Malignaggi never fought Ngoudjo either.

Anyway...

Like I said - I knew Castillo was finished once he fought Ngoudjo. A true warrior is a true warrior by nature. Once I saw that he no longer had the heart to engage, I knew something was up. Announcers were talking about him just trying to get some rounds in after a long layoff but I knew it was BS.