HAYE : "KLITSCHKO s are DUCKING ME" VIDEO

[Spray_resistant]

The questionable back injury was due to Setanta collapsing. Haye wouldn't have been paid a penny for that fight if it went through. His only form of income in that fight was from Setanta, so Haye was forced to pull out. Whether he had a legitimate back injury or not, I don't know?

And everybody knew the fight with Harrison would be made if Haye - Wlad didn't get signed. Haye will make around £8m for this fight, and it will sell around 1m PPV's in the UK. Nobody is going to reject that kind of money to face say Arreola or Adamek for $1m. I don't notice the Klits fighting any decent/dangerous opponents either.

In my opinion, both Haye and the Klits are to blame for the failure of securing the biggest fight in the HW division. If anybody blames just Haye then they are delusional haters.

They were offering Haye alot more than they really should have whether it was an actual 50/50 or close to it.

Haye is just a local draw unknown anywhere outside of the U.K while Wlad is known world wide and is the HW champion of the world, that distinction is a huge bargaining chip because it can make Haye more well known and thus more valuable if he held that distinction by beating Wlad.

Some of you guys are really deluded talking about anything less than 50/50 being unfair to Haye.

[The Dreamer]

The questionable back injury was due to Setanta collapsing. Haye wouldn't have been paid a penny for that fight if it went through. His only form of income in that fight was from Setanta, so Haye was forced to pull out. Whether he had a legitimate back injury or not, I don't know?

And everybody knew the fight with Harrison would be made if Haye - Wlad didn't get signed. Haye will make around £8m for this fight, and it will sell around 1m PPV's in the UK. Nobody is going to reject that kind of money to face say Arreola or Adamek for $1m. I don't notice the Klits fighting any decent/dangerous opponents either.

In my opinion, both Haye and the Klits are to blame for the failure of securing the biggest fight in the HW division. If anybody blames just Haye then they are delusional haters.

So there's no legit source detailing the actual deal?

I don't really care about the reasons Haye had. It's the history of lying that makes me wary of things he says. If he didn't have that history I wouldn't be so quick to question if the deal he says he was getting is truthful or not, which is why I was wondering if there was a legit source that talked about the deal other than from Haye.

[BetterCallSaul]

So there's no legit source detailing the actual deal?

I don't really care about the reasons Haye had. It's the history of lying that makes me wary of things he says. If he didn't have that history I wouldn't be so quick to question if the deal he says he was getting is truthful or not, which is why I was wondering if there was a legit source that talked about the deal other than from Haye.

There's no legit source from either camp, unless somebody has a recording of negotiations or a copy of the contract? I make my opinions up based on news stories, media, and the fighters themselves.

In this case, I choose to believe that both camps are making the fight difficult to make.

[BetterCallSaul]

They were offering Haye alot more than they really should have whether it was an actual 50/50 or close to it.

Haye is just a local draw unknown anywhere outside of the U.K while Wlad is known world wide and is the HW champion of the world, that distinction is a huge bargaining chip because it can make Haye more well known and thus more valuable if he held that distinction by beating Wlad.

Some of you guys are really deluded talking about anything less than 50/50 being unfair to Haye.

Why didn't Wlad settle for Haye's proposal of him keeping all of the British money and Wlad keeping all of the German money?

Haye is a much bigger draw than Wlad in the U.K and the U.K is where the majority of the money will come from for this fight.

If Wlad was that popular he would be on PPV.

[Spray_resistant]

Why didn't Wlad settle for Haye's proposal of him keeping all of the British money and Wlad keeping all of the German money?

Haye is a much bigger draw than Wlad in the U.K and the U.K is where the majority of the money will come from for this fight.

If Wlad was that popular he would be on PPV.

Wlad doesn't owe it to Haye to make things anywhere near even. He was from what I can see as reasonable as possible in negotiations and Haye is quibbling about some small detail and trying to find a way out without seeming like he is and overrating is own star power putting himself on a level he is not on with Wlad.

I don't think he ever intended to fight Wlad from the start now, it seems like he just used his name to make himself more marketable and create attention for himself while he takes on lesser challenges.

[BetterCallSaul]

Wlad doesn't owe it to Haye to make things anywhere near even. He was from what I can see as reasonable as possible in negotiations and Haye is quibbling about some small detail and trying to find a way out without seeming like he is and overrating is own star power putting himself on a level he is not on with Wlad.

I don't think he ever intended to fight Wlad from the start now, it seems like he just used his name to make himself more marketable and create attention for himself while he takes on lesser challenges.

Well Haye is about to earn more fighting Harrison than Wlad has ever earned in a single fight in his whole career. He is a huge name in the UK, and HBO are only interested in showing Wlad again if his opponent is named David Haye. In my eyes, Haye has a lot to negotiate with.

And losing out on a big slice of German TV revenue is not a small detail. How is a fight supposed to be 50-50 or 60-40 even if Wlad refuses to budge on his German TV contract?

[Spray_resistant]

Well Haye is about to earn more fighting Harrison than Wlad has ever earned in a single fight in his whole career. He is a huge name in the UK, and HBO are only interested in showing Wlad again if his opponent is named David Haye. In my eyes, Haye has a lot to negotiate with.

And losing out on a big slice of German TV revenue is not a small detail. How is a fight supposed to be 50-50 or 60-40 even if Wlad refuses to budge on his German TV contract?

It is impossible to say what the deal was in the contract, you are choosing to believe Haye and I am choosing to believe Wlad but even if I didn't I think anything anywhere near 50/50 is more than fair for Haye based on his position in the HW division and even if what Haye says its true he is still getting a very good deal.

I think you are underrating the distinction of HW champion which Wlad holds though it produces no immediate revenue if Haye has that distinction it makes him more notable helping him become more marketable to other audiences because he will be world famous so he will make more $$$ and if Wlad loses the fight his position and earning power is hurt badly.

That position is a huge bargaining chip you are just casting aside in the equation.

[kenso]

Well Haye is about to earn more fighting Harrison than Wlad has ever earned in a single fight in his whole career.

link us to the source?

[kenso]

It is impossible to say what the deal was in the contract, you are choosing to believe Haye and I am choosing to believe Wlad but even if I didn't I think anything anywhere near 50/50 is more than fair for Haye based on his position in the HW division and even if what Haye says its true he is still getting a very good deal.

I think you are underrating the distinction of HW champion which Wlad holds though it produces no immediate revenue if Haye has that distinction it makes him more notable helping him become more marketable to other audiences because he will be world famous so he will make more $$$ and if Wlad loses the fight his position and earning power is hurt badly.

That position is a huge bargaining chip you are just casting aside in the equation.

i wish they would do a winner take all fight. that would be amazing.

[Squizz]

A lot of British people want to see this fight including me. F**k the rest of the world.

Typical British response.

I wanna' see David get sparked by a fifth rate HW, that's why I wanna' see the fight. Haye is a fraud, just like Kahn. Just like Hatton was, until he got exposed by Luis Collazo.