who thought jirov stoppage was too early

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  • Hunna
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    #11
    Good point, the fight might of been stopped prematurely. Back in the old days, when the likes of Sugar Ray Robinson , JAke La Motta were around, you had to be almost knocked out cold or KO'd snoring. If that were the case, the fight would went longer, till one of the fighters were fully out on their feet.

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    • Hunna
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      #12
      AMateur boxing is a perfect example of stopping fights to easy. If an opponent has a bleeding nose, the ref can stop the bout, wouldn't that be a bummer if you fighting for gold and up on pts, when the ref stops bout due to a blood nose.

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      • Zab Super Judah
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        #13
        it wasnt ******ity that made jirov get up....it was his automatic reaction....like he said it was the first time hes been down that way and actually hurt and he just reacted. when u get knocked out like that its hard to actually think and process

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        • Mr. Violence
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          #14
          i thought it was an ok stoppage

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          • DR. FREECLOUD
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            #15
            Originally posted by Novirasputin
            I think it was a wrong stoppage.

            the ref should have stopped it when Vasili first got up and wobbled back

            not after he asked him to come forward and Vasili did so

            bendy knees or no, he should have been given the benefit because his head was clear not his knees

            His head was on and he raised his hands to show he could fight on.

            When the ref asked him to come forward and he did and then he waived it off

            i said to myself WTF?

            why ask a fighter to walk forward and stop it,


            Not saying Moorer wouldn't have a good chance to finish it

            but Jirov could have survived the round and hey who knows
            he could have run the rest of the way and perhaps win

            although that is not in his nature.
            the ref made a good decision. he gave jirov the benefit of the doubt and let him take the full count. i don't know how long you have been watching boxing but the reason why they get them to walk forward is to see if they are still off balance. if they are, jirov was, then they should stop the fight. its for the saftey of the boxer. jirov still didn't have his legs. moorer smelled blood and would have put him right back on the canvas. the ref prevented jirov from the possibility of getting permanant damage. good call ref.

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            • PacKillsMorales
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              #16
              you say the ref made a good decision and
              have a pic of george bus underneath.
              are you trying to make some comparison?

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              • DR. FREECLOUD
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                #17
                Originally posted by Lounge Libra
                you say the ref made a good decision and
                have a pic of george bus underneath.
                are you trying to make some comparison?
                i was not making any comparisons. the pic is my sig so it is at the bottom of all my posts. but since you asked....yes the ref made a good decision. i love to see good fights but i would rather see a good ref think of the saftey of the men in hte ring. could jirov have gone on? prolly could have. for maybe 15 seconds more til moorer knocked him into tomorrow. o maybe he would have recovered, who knows. i like jirov and hope he comes back. i personally think he was the more skilled boxer in the ring. but i don't want to see any fighter get permanant damage.

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                • PacKillsMorales
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by big_pappy
                  i was not making any comparisons. the pic is my sig so it is at the bottom of all my posts. but since you asked....yes the ref made a good decision. i love to see good fights but i would rather see a good ref think of the saftey of the men in hte ring. could jirov have gone on? prolly could have. for maybe 15 seconds more til moorer knocked him into tomorrow. o maybe he would have recovered, who knows. i like jirov and hope he comes back. i personally think he was the more skilled boxer in the ring. but i don't want to see any fighter get permanant damage.
                  i wasnt questioning your judgement as ive not seen the fight.

                  i see its your sig now..

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                  • DR. FREECLOUD
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Lounge Libra
                    i wasnt questioning your judgement as ive not seen the fight.

                    i see its your sig now..
                    thats cool. you should check out the fight it's a good one imo.

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                    • PacKillsMorales
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                      #20
                      might have a look for it on emule in a few days.

                      i just cant wait till sunday when ill check
                      boxingscenes round by round.

                      im glad rick decided to do it because we all were
                      going elsewhere to get it.

                      id love to rewatch jirov-toney and see mesi-jirov
                      for the first time. maybe even toney-holyfield

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