For 50 mil, would you fight Manny with roids?

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Like i said, i dont know, but i know there has been a lot more focus on Pac regarding OST, and that Jones was always considered an elite fighter, not some guy who went, from what many people viewed, as a one dimmensional guy with only a left hand, to a guy who went up in weight and started ****ing out bigger men, and looked, to some observers, like his power had increased, as i say, you cant compare the two, cause the two circumstances have different intangibles, Pac, regarding drugs, has been under the microscope for a long time now, well since Mayweather made that statement.

You keep saying that, i get it, i dont care either, your silence just diminishes your credibility on the issue, in my mind at least, of coarse you will say i dont care, fair enough, lets leave it at that.


There are enough of them for more than one or two to go against the grain, that much is true. You would have us believe they are all in Manny's pocket, too scared to speak up.

If my silence diminishes my credibility then so be it. If I knew you in person, I'd be worried about that. I don't, therefore I'm not. Second, Jones always being elite means squat. Shane Mosley was always considered elite too. And Pac being under scrutiny means nothing if he doesn't have to take tests. Heck, he's fighting in Texas where you can use any steroid you want. Third, I would not have you believe that the authorities are all in Manny's pocket. But as long as you don't care, there's no reason to speak on it. Let's face it, few journalists in boxing have balls. It took an independent group of reporters to find out what was going on with Evander. And they weren't even boxing fans. The only true investigative writer I can think of is Thomas Hauser. And even he is biased - we're human, after all. Commissions always know what's up. And they must do what it's in their best interest - losing money isn't one of them. Three years ago, Margaret Goodman said that commissions are too scared to do anything because if they institute tougher testing (which they NEVER want to, for obvious reasons), the promoters would take the fight to another state. Not one commission ever did their own investigation into Mosley or Jones' positive tests. Amazing, right? Anyway DK, I understand your position. But you'll just have to respect mine here. I won't divulge further on my own prerogative. We'll let the chips fall where they may. The truth isn't always on time but its always on point. Cheers.

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Heck, they can check my semen for a guaranteed $50 mill.

Fact #1 is the NSAC commission has no proof either fighter is loading up on power juices and nuclear pellets, but they must still submit to testing just in case somebody, by some remote chance is lying about it.

The random Olympic style testing is an extra precautionary measure both fighters would undergo to solidify fairness on both sides.

Fact #2 is the majority of the mainstream public, boxing community, and athletes would agree to random testing for that kind of money, and to prove they're clean.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Heck, they can check my semen for a guaranteed $50 mill.

Fact #1 is the NSAC commission has no proof either fighter is loading up on power juices and nuclear pellets, but they must still submit to testing just in case somebody, by some remote chance is lying about it.

The random Olympic style testing is an extra precautionary measure both fighters would undergo to solidify fairness on both sides.

Fact #2 is the majority of the mainstream public, boxing community, and athletes would agree to random testing for that kind of money, and to prove they're clean.

Fact #3 is Floyd hasn't done random drug testing as a pro.

[MindBat]

Fact #3 is Floyd hasn't done random drug testing as a pro.

Fact #4 is He and Shane have both undergone random drug testing as pros. Where you been hiding?

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Chance to enhance his legacy.

Yeah, sorta' like Pacquiao would enhance his legacy if he could just prove he wasn't using any "enhancements" with a random blood test.

Nobody I've seen in this debate has given me a conclusive answer as to why Manny can't agree to random blood testing. No reason I've yet to hear makes any sense what so ever. Face it people: Your hero is a fraud. And since he wont' agree to testing, he's relegated to fighting the likes of Clottey and Margarito, fights which NO boxing fan wants to see at this juncture.

[Squizz]

Fact #3 is Floyd hasn't done random drug testing as a pro.

Complete self-ownange right here. You clearly have no idea WTF you are talking about.

[Squizz]

I just find it ironic that the thread starter shares a username with one of the most notorious steroid abusers in all of professional wrestling, and also supports one of the boxers most suspected of using PED's.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Fact #4 is He and Shane have both undergone random drug testing as pros. Where you been hiding?

Random testing is year round.

They did it for their training camps only.

Not random at all. They knew the exact time frame they would be tested in.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Complete self-ownange right here. You clearly have no idea WTF you are talking about.

See above dummy.