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  • #81
    Originally posted by Mr. Copeland View Post
    Honestly I only watched it twice and on the first watch I notice how poor of an adjustment Floyd made. The only problem is Shane wasn't cerebral enough as a fighter to take advantage. If that was Manny.....Floyd would have taken out.

    I know I will get flamed for this, and people will think I'm hating, but Floyd was open 4-5 more times after Shane stunned him but Shane just isn't a smart fighter. I'll just say this; a lot of you guys will be in for a suprise if both ever fight.
    Shane's problem is that he was loading up.

    That is, after he hit Floyd with his right hand, he would re-caulk and fire back with another right hand. This would give Floyd precious time so that he can cover up. If Mosley fought with both hands, he would have been able to follow up EASILY with the left hand during that 2nd round.

    Also, Mosley DID gas out. Mosley at his prime would not have gassed out so so easily. Floyd did nothing special to make Mosley gas out like that.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by MindBat View Post
      Oscar and Hatton, lost to Floyd. And Oscar had plenty advantages over Floyd, not to mention Freddie Roach in his corner and Floyd Sr.'s tutelage for a few fights.
      You can have the best of the best trainer but when you fight part time like Oscar did, it doesn' matter who is your trainer. Also, Roach said that it was during the Floyd fight that he realized that Oscar couldn't pull the trigger anymore.

      Floyd fought a Hatton who had only 1 fight at 147. Hatton had a decent plan but couldn't effectively implement it as well against a bigger Floyd as he could against his usual 140lb fighters. Also, Hatton's punches had no steam. If Hatton had power during that fight, we could have seen another fight but that is one too many IFs..... lol!

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      • #83
        It could happen if Pac hurts Mayweather...


        don't get me wrong Mayweather blatantly ducked Pacquiao out of fear but I think that Mayweather has the skills to put a serious beating on Pacquiao and vice versa. The thing is Mayweather is a cautious fighter which means he is a safety first fighter and Pacquaio is not. Pac is relentless and if he hurts you...u will get ktfo. If Mayweather had Pac's mentality, determination, and agression he would have been the first person to knock Mosley the **** out... and could probably even beat the **** out of Pacquiao...
        but imo Pac is so relentless, agile, skilled, and strong minded that his style will possibly defeat Mayweather....

        He has the tools definetly...

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        • #84
          Manny has not finished every guy he has hurt and everytime Floyd has been hurt in his career nothing came of it and even in the round Floyd usually gets back to business.

          It really depends on what would land but to say the fight would end if Manny hurts Floyd is kind of pressing things to far.

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          • #85
            Originally posted by Ben_London View Post
            I think Pacman wins too but Mayweather actually tied up well, he held onto Mosley's arm after the first big right hand, if he hadn't he may have gone.
            I agree with this 100%

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            • #86
              Floyd ties up real well... he's smart with it, peep the hatton fight.. floyd did his own share of clinching

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              • #87
                Pacquiao by early KO.

                Probably 1st or 2nd round KO

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                • #88
                  Mayweather needs to control Manny with his jab all night long, clinch to disrupt Pacs flow as much as possible becuase you absolutely cannot get that little dude going, but I believe Pacquiao will eventually get to Floyd. One thing people forget is the body work Pacman did against Clottey, that was impressive. This will be key. That Philly style wont work against southpaws (much less ackward), and you need to hit the body, shoulders, chest, whatever and just beat the other guy up with that defensive style especially when you get into a corner... and trust me Pacquiao will get Floyd into a corner. Everybody talks about skills (and Pacquiao's no slouch either) but I also see intangibles, and Pacquiao is only guy I see that can change gears and just go to another level even more so than Floyd. Floyd definitely has skills, but just like Duran Pacs will is just too damn strong to be denied. That smiling, humble, nice guy is SUPER aggresive.

                  Pacquiao will get to Floyd, trust me. Floyds gonna have to step up his offense, and go to another level himself and let his hands go at some point. Marquez is only guy that can respond because he throws in combos. For every 2, Marquez would hit back with 2 or 3 and match him. Floyd will be forced to do that as the fight goes on, but I'm not sure he has in him honestly. Floyd will be forced to fight mark my words. This is no cakewalk.

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by Bhopreign View Post
                    If you think thats whats gonna happen you need to go back and watch Pac/Marquez II. Over and over each round Marquez did something that was very simple, when Pac leaned in to punch he simply stepped back and countered, Floyd can do that all day. Nobody talks about the strategies employed in that fight and its one of Floyd's normal things to do in the ring, Ill be shocked if Pac isnt stopped honestly.
                    i was shocked when a half dead old man (mosley) wasn't stopped

                    i was even more shocked when an old who had no business in WW (marquez) wasn't stopped either

                    but yeah, pac being stopped is a given

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by boxasmash View Post
                      Floyd will get knocked out, I'd laugh if he comes out against Pac like he tried with Mosley and Marquez and guess what? That's the way he fights Southpaws, he tries to back them up.

                      Bet the *****s are having nightmares already.
                      you idiot.....you have yet to present a logical argument on how the mosley fight proves he's gonna get ktfo against pac.

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