Floyd fanz: what peak, great, natural welter has floyd beat?

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  • Bhopreign
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    #91
    Originally posted by wpink1
    Funny how easy it is to factually destroy mayweather fans. I have asked repeatedly name one. fighter. and they are still stuttering. trying to attack robinson instead of answering the question. Cupocity, is bringing some boxing knowlege but he is giving excuses for Mayweather instead of simply accepting that there are good fighters for mayweather to fight today. He does not have to have hagler or duran. He has pacman, and Williams.

    He is trying to switch the issue No one is saying mosley is not a good foe to have on your resume as having beat. What I am saying is when we go back and review Mayweather and compare feats of his vs feats of leonard or robinson, Mosley being 38 and having 5 losses in recenst history is not gonna be reason to rank Mayweathr up there with a leonard who beat duran, hagler, hearnd, benetiz....
    Name the peak, great, naturals he could have fought.

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      #92
      Originally posted by wpink1
      Funny how easy it is to factually destroy mayweather fans. I have asked repeatedly name one. fighter. and they are still stuttering. trying to attack robinson instead of answering the question. Cupocity, is bringing some boxing knowlege but he is giving excuses for Mayweather instead of simply accepting that there are good fighters for mayweather to fight today. He does not have to have hagler or duran. He has pacman, and Williams.

      He is trying to switch the issue No one is saying mosley is not a good foe to have on your resume as having beat. What I am saying is when we go back and review Mayweather and compare feats of his vs feats of leonard or robinson, Mosley being 38 and having 5 losses in recenst history is not gonna be reason to rank Mayweathr up there with a leonard who beat duran, hagler, hearnd, benetiz....
      I don't know if your talking about me or not, but i wasn't attacking Ray Robinson, incase you havn't noticed i have Robinson in my avi. I was simply saying some of the fighters you named who he beat wern't at there peak, thats all.

      I personally think Mayweather beating Mosley last May is a better win than if he had beat Williams last May, just saying.

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      • cupocity303
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        #93
        Cupocity, is bringing some boxing knowlege but he is giving excuses for Mayweather instead of simply accepting that there are good fighters for mayweather to fight today.
        "Good" Fighters, Yes.

        Ever great fighters, Yes. Manny Pacquiao is a all-time great.


        Natural Welterweight, Peak and Great fighters, those do NOT exist, which is the main topic of this thread.

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        • wpink1
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          #94
          Originally posted by Bhopreign
          He will be ranked as high maybe higher.
          Your smoking my friend.. there are numerous lists out and not one has him about 20...

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            #95
            Originally posted by wpink1
            Your smoking my friend.. there are numerous lists out and not one has him about 20...
            He's not done fighting is he? Besides lists are only opinions. I can tear down Leonard's resume just as much as you try to with Floyd's.

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            • wpink1
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              #96
              Originally posted by cupocity303
              "Good" Fighters, Yes.

              Ever great fighters, Yes. Manny Pacquiao is a all-time great.


              Natural Welterweight, Peak and Great fighters, those do NOT exist, which is the main topic of this thread.
              I named the thread and that is not the implied message. I think it is obvious as those that WANT to understand, do. those that want to support mayweather are looking for excuses.

              Mayweather at Welter has many challenges he can face. He can only face the best of his era. Then I am asking you has he?

              has he faced the best 147 -154 pounders? If he wants to be compared with Robinson and leonard he has to face the 147-154 pounders the best of his era.
              Again has he?

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                #97
                Originally posted by Bhopreign
                He's not done fighting is he? Besides lists are only opinions. I can tear down Leonard's resume just as much as you try to with Floyd's.

                he has two fights maybe 3 he can make to prevent him from going down in history as a the greatest ducker of all time.

                Pacman is a must if pacman beats margo.
                Williams
                Cotto is not a must but would be a good win

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                • Bhopreign
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                  #98
                  Originally posted by wpink1
                  I named the thread and that is not the implied message. I think it is obvious as those that WANT to understand, do. those that want to support mayweather are looking for excuses.

                  Mayweather at Welter has many challenges he can face. He can only face the best of his era. Then I am asking you has he?

                  has he faced the best 147 -154 pounders? If he wants to be compared with Robinson and leonard he has to face the 147-154 pounders the best of his era.
                  Again has he?
                  Like I said, you changed the rules in the middle of the ball game. I already showed you that Robinson never fought a peak, great, natural welter, why dont you make a thread about that too.

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                  • cupocity303
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by wpink1
                    I named the thread and that is not the implied message. I think it is obvious as those that WANT to understand, do. those that want to support mayweather are looking for excuses.

                    Mayweather at Welter has many challenges he can face. He can only face the best of his era. Then I am asking you has he?

                    has he faced the best 147 -154 pounders? If he wants to be compared with Robinson and leonard he has to face the 147-154 pounders the best of his era.
                    Again has he?
                    You answer post # 89, then I'll answer your question.

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                      #100
                      Originally posted by Bhopreign
                      He's not done fighting is he? Besides lists are only opinions. I can tear down Leonard's resume just as much as you try to with Floyd's.
                      yea but you won't make sense and no one will believe you.

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