Sad. When It Comes To Manny Pacquiao, Floyd Is Nothing More Than An Internet Gangster

[Mayas]

this is just a bit too much for me to believe...not saying its false, but i have my reservations about your insights

The california boxing commission officials have been fired, by Arnold, at the pressure of Golden Boy Promotions.

[Vasyl’s dad]

their protocol for year round testing is for high-risk athletes ie. those who have a history of failed tests...those athletes are even subjected to check in on a quarterly basis regarding their whereabouts


according to their criteria, NEITHER floyd OR manny would be subjected to THAT type of extensive testing


HOWEVER


for someone who was adamant in being a CRUSADER and an advocate in 'cleaning up' the sport, you would think that he would step up to the plate and lead by example...year round testing


as it is, according to reports and write ups, PED use is most effective during the OFF SEASON....


when the prime window frame to use PEDs is in the off season, its more than interesting that a once-a-year fighter has his own su****ions about other fighters

appreciated good sir.

[V.WEBB]

their protocol for year round testing is for high-risk athletes ie. those who have a history of failed tests...those athletes are even subjected to check in on a quarterly basis regarding their whereabouts


according to their criteria, NEITHER floyd OR manny would be subjected to THAT type of extensive testing

Actually, according to the red that I highlighted below, they would be subject to the OCC testing. Though they may NOT be considered a high risk for doping, USADA has the right to test ANY athlete for ANY reason.

"A: USADA selects athletes to test in an out-of-competition setting based on an automated draw that considers a number of factors, including athlete ranking, risk of doping within each sport and test history. All athletes from all sports under USADA’s jurisdiction are subject to OOC testing and USADA has the right to test any athlete for any reason. All NGBs are required to provide a list of athletes for inclusion in the USADA Registered Testing Pool at least quarterly. With respect to each athlete on the list and any additional athletes designated by USADA for inclusion in the USADA Registered Testing Pool, each athlete receives an OOC packet from USADA which includes a USADA Guide to Prohibited Substances and Prohibited Methods in Doping, wallet card, pertinent forms and educational materials. After initial entry into the USADA RTP, it is the responsibility of each individual athlete to provide USADA with current and updated information specifying his/her whereabouts. On a quarterly basis, USADA posts the names of the U.S. athletes who have been tested by USADA at www.usada.org."

HOWEVER


for someone who was adamant in being a CRUSADER and an advocate in 'cleaning up' the sport, you would think that he would step up to the plate and lead by example...year round testing


as it is, according to reports and write ups, PED use is most effective during the OFF SEASON....


when the prime window frame to use PEDs is in the off season, its more than interesting that a once-a-year fighter has his own su****ions about other fighters

Dude is not trying to be a crusader, no matter what he has said on record, Mak...I mean pound-4-pound.

And, you are correct about PED being the most effective during the offseason. However, the USADA states that they have the right to test any athlete at any time under their jurisdiction and that all athletes under their jurisdiction are SUBJECT to be tested at any time for any reason.

[HandSpeed303]

So to give a short summary of what this topic has turned into...

Hopkins: Doping. Ward: Doping. Campbell: Doping. Mosley: Still Doping.

Did I miss anything?

[mathed]

if this had gone down when it shoulda gone down we'd be talking about the rematch by now.

I know right?

[n0b0dy]

the tests for Mosley & Floyd were not useless, cause Shane did not have much advanced notice, as to when the USADA isnpectors were gonna test him, so Mosley wasn;t able to use EPO. thats why Mosley ran out of gas by the 3rd round against Floyd, cause Mosley was not "juiced-up" for the Floyd fight, the way he was for the Margarito fight.

Mosley could have not use, but Floyd as stated “Shane has signed a contract that says Floyd can dictate the terms of the drug testing. Anything that Floyd wants is all right, as long as Floyd submits to the same testing requirements as Shane. There is no provision one way or another in the contract for public disclosure of the test results" have all the power in said testing so he could have cheated and ask that the test be cut short.

[HandSpeed303]

Actually, according to the red that I highlighted below, they would be subject to the OCC testing. Though they may NOT be considered a high risk for doping, USADA has the right to test ANY athlete for ANY reason.

"A: USADA selects athletes to test in an out-of-competition setting based on an automated draw that considers a number of factors, including athlete ranking, risk of doping within each sport and test history. All athletes from all sports under USADA’s jurisdiction are subject to OOC testing and USADA has the right to test any athlete for any reason. All NGBs are required to provide a list of athletes for inclusion in the USADA Registered Testing Pool at least quarterly. With respect to each athlete on the list and any additional athletes designated by USADA for inclusion in the USADA Registered Testing Pool, each athlete receives an OOC packet from USADA which includes a USADA Guide to Prohibited Substances and Prohibited Methods in Doping, wallet card, pertinent forms and educational materials. After initial entry into the USADA RTP, it is the responsibility of each individual athlete to provide USADA with current and updated information specifying his/her whereabouts. On a quarterly basis, USADA posts the names of the U.S. athletes who have been tested by USADA at www.usada.org."




Dude is not trying to be a crusader, no matter what he has said on record, Mak...I mean pound-4-pound.

And, you are correct about PED being the most effective during the offseason. However, the USADA states that they have the right to test any athlete at any time under their jurisdiction and that all athletes under their jurisdiction are SUBJECT to be tested at any time for any reason.

Even though that has been stated many times over, and why the 14 day window really shouldn't matter....

Coach, do you think it is possible that Floyd is doping in the off season?

[-MAKAVELLI-]

The california boxing commission officials have been fired, by Arnold, at the pressure of Golden Boy Promotions.

its hard for me to believe you because Margarito was at his all time highest marketability before the Shane fight...he was a major player


and for Arum to 'allow' his cash cow to get one-upped by a GBP fighter is hard to stomach

even harder to believe that he was gonna get a cut off a pure GBP fight with PBF-Mosely for 'playing along'


another thing that doesn't add up is the fact that PBF-Mosely was NEVER set in stone...especially back in January 09....****, it took a natural disaster in Haiti for that fight to even happen


and for Arum to agree on a 'might happen' fight in exchange for one of his cash cows would be the opposite mentality of a 'money hungry' promoter


good story tho...you had me going...and there might be some truth in what you're saying but there's a lot of fiction covering up the cracks

[V.WEBB]

Even though that has been stated many times over, and why the 14 day window really shouldn't matter....

Coach, do you think it is possible that Floyd is doping in the off season?

Yes. Anything is possible. Especially in sports. I know dudes that are in the NFL and they say that is a PED haven. Some big names have come up in these discussions. So, yes, it is possible that Floyd is doping in the "off-season".

[-MAKAVELLI-]

Actually, according to the red that I highlighted below, they would be subject to the OCC testing. Though they may NOT be considered a high risk for doping, USADA has the right to test ANY athlete for ANY reason.

"A: USADA selects athletes to test in an out-of-competition setting based on an automated draw that considers a number of factors, including athlete ranking, risk of doping within each sport and test history. All athletes from all sports under USADA’s jurisdiction are subject to OOC testing and USADA has the right to test any athlete for any reason. All NGBs are required to provide a list of athletes for inclusion in the USADA Registered Testing Pool at least quarterly. With respect to each athlete on the list and any additional athletes designated by USADA for inclusion in the USADA Registered Testing Pool, each athlete receives an OOC packet from USADA which includes a USADA Guide to Prohibited Substances and Prohibited Methods in Doping, wallet card, pertinent forms and educational materials. After initial entry into the USADA RTP, it is the responsibility of each individual athlete to provide USADA with current and updated information specifying his/her whereabouts. On a quarterly basis, USADA posts the names of the U.S. athletes who have been tested by USADA at www.usada.org."




Dude is not trying to be a crusader, no matter what he has said on record, Mak...I mean pound-4-pound.

And, you are correct about PED being the most effective during the offseason. However, the USADA states that they have the right to test any athlete at any time under their jurisdiction and that all athletes under their jurisdiction are SUBJECT to be tested at any time for any reason.

all you did was agree with my points and call Floyd a bull****ter about his crusade