Floyd shows the reason why he isn't a cross over star.

[Dynamite Kid]

Mayweather is one of the greatest smaller weight fighters of all time and has ducked very few fighters(especially at his natural weight classes). What happens if he fights Pac and beats him, are you going to discredit him because he simply is a racist? We are supposed to be judging fighters by what they do in the ring, not if they are a kind person. Many awful people in sports are still rated highly as long as they back it up. Tyrus Cobb is looked at as one of the most gifted baseball players of all time and he was openly racist and woman beater. It's wrong to knock athletes for things that have nothing to do with their profession.

Yeah? Lol, just happens not to of fought an prime elite fighter in his time, what a surprise.

You missing what im saying completely, im not judging him on him being racist, im saying his whole persona is gonna bite him on the ass, which racism is a part of, when they speak of him historically, its gonna be of a guy that was considered to have avoided people, now thats not me saying that, even though it is, thats consensus opinion right now amongst the majority, not just fans, but seemingly by pundits alike.

Mayweather will be remembered as a guy who showed no class, was ignorant and arrogant, which its okay to be, provided your fighting the best consistently!, now you can say Mayweather can change that perception, can he though? its an opinion thats already held by most people.

Let me ask you something, do you honestly think there aren't going to be fans/pundits out there, rightly or wrongly, that wont, subliminally, not want to give Mayweather his full props historically?

[PACnPBFsuck]

I'll tell what is flawed. Mayweather stans bringing up PPV numbers like he did all by himself.

It's isn't true and it's high time you got your nut round it.

That's true, but the thing is that all the highest paying fights in recent years have one the thing in common, Mayweather. Hate him or love, the guy knows how to make money.

[Kagami Taiga]

Yeah? Lol, just happens not to of fought an prime elite fighter in his time, what a surprise.

You missing what im saying completely, im not judging him on him being racist, im saying his whole persona is gonna bite him on the ass, which racism is a part of, when they speak of him historically, its gonna be of a guy that was considered to have avoided people, now thats not me saying that, even though it is, thats consensus opinion right now amongst the majority, not just fans, but seemingly by pundits alike.

Mayweather will be remembered as a guy guy who showed no class, was ignorant and arrogant, which its okay to be, provided your fighting the best consistently!, now you can say Mayweather can change that perception, can he though? its an opinion that he already held by most people.

Let me ask you something, do you honestly think there aren't going to be fans/pundits out there, rightly or wrongly, that wont, subliminally, not want to give Mayweather his full props historically?

well can we at least wait for him to retire? nothing is set in stone for his career just yet. i believe he can do better, will he? at this point i just dont know...

[KnockUTheFukOut]

Yeah, but his legacy dont even exceed the likes of Whitaker at the moment based on what he has achieved thus far, let alone the likes of Ali, SRR, Leonard etc etc.

He beats Pac and he will win a one off fight against a smaller opponent, big deal, anyone can win a one off match where it might favour your stylistically, the reason fighters lose, is cause they face the best consistently, which does not include cherry picking who know you can beat due to old age, being smaller. Mayweather will never be able to gloss over his ducking and ignorance.

...WTF are you talking about????

[Tyson.]

Yeah? Lol, just happens not to of fought an prime elite fighter in his time, what a surprise.

You missing what im saying completely, im not judging him on him being racist, im saying his whole persona is gonna bite him on the ass, which racism is a part of, when they speak of him historically, its gonna be of a guy that was considered to have avoided people, now thats not me saying that, even though it is, thats consensus opinion right now amongst the majority, not just fans, but seemingly by pundits alike.

Mayweather will be remembered as a guy who showed no class, was ignorant and arrogant, which its okay to be, provided your fighting the best consistently!, now you can say Mayweather can change that perception, can he though? its an opinion thats already held by most people.

Let me ask you something, do you honestly think there aren't going to be fans/pundits out there, rightly or wrongly, that wont, subliminally, not want to give Mayweather his full props historically?

Mayweather will be remembered as the most skilled fighter of all time.

Yes he will have his haters, but Ali had haters and probably still does to this very day yet hes the GOAT. If Mayweather was as hated as you make out, he wouldnt be doing 1 mill+ PPV every fight.

Mayweather really is 2nd to only Ali, noone else has dominated boxing the way he has.

[maguirre]

Most boxing fans don't take boxers' words outside of boxing seriously. Floyd or any other boxer can talk trash to another and it won't bother me one bit especially if it's leading to a fight.

As for being not a crossover, it has nothing to do with what he says outside the ring. He's just boring as hell to many people. He started gaining notoriety and huge cash when he fought Hoya. We all know that most were rooting for Hoya. Same people followed him to see him lose. Thus the gain in PPV advantage. Keyword: see him lose.

In short, you can talk the talk, but if you can't walk the walk this crossover nonsense is just that, nonsense.

[Chunk..]

Mayweather will be remembered as the most skilled fighter of all time.

Yes he will have his haters, but Ali had haters and probably still does to this very day yet hes the GOAT. If Mayweather was as hated as you make out, he wouldnt be doing 1 mill+ PPV every fight.

Mayweather really is 2nd to only Ali, noone else has dominated boxing the way he has.

You've got a lot to learn, grasshopper.

[Calilloyd]

Most boxing fans don't take boxers' words outside of boxing seriously. Floyd or any other boxer can talk trash to another and it won't bother me one bit especially if it's leading to a fight.

As for being not a crossover, it has nothing to do with what he says outside the ring. He's just boring as hell to many people. He started gaining notoriety and huge cash when he fought Hoya. We all know that most were rooting for Hoya. Same people followed him to see him lose. Thus the gain in PPV advantage. Keyword: see him lose.

In short, you can talk the talk, but if you can't walk the walk this crossover nonsense is just that, nonsense.

Not everybody that watches Mayweather " pays to see him lose ".That's one of the most ****** misinformed comments I've read here.

[deuce_drop]

people only like ****** from sports figures or celebrities when it's funny. floyd is far from funny, he's down right lame.


it's obvious to all of us that floyd is not a wordsmith, far from it, actually, the EXACT OPPOSITE, it's really painful to hear and watch. he has a low level IQ with his childlike overacting and attention whoring, nothing floyd has ever said or done has been original, it's all a scripted act that floyd thinks is clever and smart and attention getting, and for a small part it is attention grabbing, but it's only the attention of those with the same IQ level he's targeting. he's not trying to gather fans from the "other side" being a cross over star.

he's playing to people who don't think for themselves, he's playing to people with low level IQ's such as himself, and that pool of people is small compared to the rest of the world.

[Check]

Yeah? Lol, just happens not to of fought an prime elite fighter in his time, what a surprise.

You missing what im saying completely, im not judging him on him being racist, im saying his whole persona is gonna bite him on the ass, which racism is a part of, when they speak of him historically, its gonna be of a guy that was considered to have avoided people, now thats not me saying that, even though it is, thats consensus opinion right now amongst the majority, not just fans, but seemingly by pundits alike.

Mayweather will be remembered as a guy who showed no class, was ignorant and arrogant, which its okay to be, provided your fighting the best consistently!, now you can say Mayweather can change that perception, can he though? its an opinion thats already held by most people.

Let me ask you something, do you honestly think there aren't going to be fans/pundits out there, rightly or wrongly, that wont, subliminally, not want to give Mayweather his full props historically?

No, I get what you're saying but you also are assuming Mayweather is done fighting great fighters. Mayweather at the lower weights took on steep competition, moved up many weights, and also performed well in those matchups outside of his natural weight(a true test of a great fighter imo). On top of all that we can assume he isn't done fighting, so he might enhance the resume. Lets say he beats Pac for debates sake, that win will stand out more than any crazy stuff he has ever said.

Even if he was to retire today, most would consider him a top 30 or so fighter of all time. Racist talk like this is fresh in our minds today but 50 years from now it will likely fade or not rub us in such a bad way. Sure, people will say, "oh, he was a mean guy" but they will also say look at his win against Mosley. It's easy right now to remember Shane as an older guy, but down the line that stuff won't be remembered as easily and people will look back and say Mosley was just coming out a great win against Margarito.

As for your question, of course people will knock him but anyone that matters and puts their personal feelings to the side will always give that guy the benefit of the doubt. To go back to my Ty Cobb comment, people know about his past but due to his great career they still put him in the top 5 of all time. Things like this may be annoying but I don't think it really irks people that much in retrospect.