confused about mainstream love for hopkins

[glarrabee]

did u see the taylor fight he wore him out and then beat him up..just like roy jones was scared to say on hbo..hbo robbed hopkins cuz taylor with hbo

I agree hopkins should have won... but HBO doesn't pick the judges.

[TyrantT316]

well I am making my argument before Taylor...that is not really that great of an example of a fight in arguing Hopkins' case...mainly because he lost...and a guy like Hagler would have gotten Taylor out of there in his prime...

the best case you can make for Hopkins vs Taylor is that Hops was 40...but he still blew away the fight...which takes some of his legacy luster away...because then you have to think about how he would beat a Hagler if he fought that way...

[glarrabee]

well I am making my argument before Taylor...that is not really that great of an example of a fight in arguing Hopkins' case...mainly because he lost...and a guy like Hagler would have gotten Taylor out of there in his prime...

the best case you can make for Hopkins vs Taylor is that Hops was 40...but he still blew away the fight...which takes some of his legacy luster away...because then you have to think about how he would beat a Hagler if he fought that way...

I dont know what the hell you just said kid... but you special. You reached out, and you touched a brotha's heart!

[glarrabee]

Hopkins, TKO over JT in round 11. Because that's what the world wants to see!

[legend]

Hopkins is a very good fighter, but to compare im to a Hagler just isn't right. Yes, Hagler lost to welterweights who moved up to challenge him, but those welterweights were Sugar Ray Leonard, Tommy Hearns, etc. How can you even say a fighter like Tito compares to those guys. Tito can't even box, hell Winky Wright basically swept him on the scorecards. Tito built his career relying on KO victories and never took the time to learn how to win on the cards against a superior boxer. SRL would have taken Tito to school worse than Hopkins. Tommy Hearns MIGHT have been more competitive vs. Tito, but I highly doubt it. Hearns could box if he wanted and possessed a wicked right hand. If Tito couldn't take a right-hand from Hopkins, there's no way he could have taken one from Hearns, one of the hardest P4P punchers in history.

[scottydottie]

So......what has Bernard Hopkins done to deserve his sterling reputation? Online polls suggest that the rematch will be won easily by Hopkins. What has Hopkins done to deserve the outpouring of devotion? It's not that I dismiss him outright or think he is untalented, I just don't understand the rabid love shown to him. Where's the resume'?

Look at fighters who don't shy away from challenges, who built their career by fighting the best over and over, and proved themselves as champions. Don't give me that "twenty title defenses" B.S.

Here'e a few other fighters who confound me that they had tons of fans:

1. prince naseem
2. mike tyson
3. roy jones jr.

what did any of these people really do?

there are fighters who have actually done something:

1. joe louis
2. "sugar" ray robinson
3. julio cesar chavez

AND, why don't people have any love for Jermain Taylor!? He is the future of the middleweight division, all killer, no filler.

you have no idea what you are talking about young man. I suggest you shut up and close down this thread cuz its a bunch of b.s. Hopkins 20th defense is "b.s?" Come on now, who do you think you are saying that is b.s. LOL....idiot.

[IwatchBoxing]

Hopkins is a great middleweight, within the top four I guess, he did defend his belt the most, which makes him a great fighter at that weight, but he lost to Taylor, 9 rounds to 3, dominated. There shouldnt even be a rematch, Hopkins should just retire, his regin is over, finished. The only reason Hopkins is popular today, is because of Trinidad and DLH.

[scap]

Hopkins is a great middleweight, within the top four I guess, he did defend his belt the most, which makes him a great fighter at that weight, but he lost to Taylor, 9 rounds to 3, dominated. There shouldnt even be a rematch, Hopkins should just retire, his regin is over, finished. The only reason Hopkins is popular today, is because of Trinidad and DLH.

Although there is absolutely no doubt you are a ****ing moron IWATCH, you do have a point about Tito and Oscar which I already brought up a while ago...NArd owes those to boys a lot, without them his reputation and pocket book are not even close to the same, he should kiss both of their asses for deciding to take huge risk and move up when they never ever had to.

IWATCH, you make a point that is certainly valid but you are still dumb as ****. Take care buddy, when are you going to PM-we can talk sweet science pal!

[deuce_drop]

Hopkins is a very good fighter, but to compare im to a Hagler just isn't right. Yes, Hagler lost to welterweights who moved up to challenge him, but those welterweights were Sugar Ray Leonard, Tommy Hearns, etc. How can you even say a fighter like Tito compares to those guys. Tito can't even box, hell Winky Wright basically swept him on the scorecards. Tito built his career relying on KO victories and never took the time to learn how to win on the cards against a superior boxer. SRL would have taken Tito to school worse than Hopkins. Tommy Hearns MIGHT have been more competitive vs. Tito, but I highly doubt it. Hearns could box if he wanted and possessed a wicked right hand. If Tito couldn't take a right-hand from Hopkins, there's no way he could have taken one from Hearns, one of the hardest P4P punchers in history.

just a little info, Hagler didn't lose to Hearns.... not sure if thats important!!!

[SliqueJab]

No Hagler knockout Hearns on the 3rd round. The thing is while people thought Hopkins won because he's much bigger than Trinidad and Dela Hoya, Duran and Leonard moved up and both of them went to distance with Hagler. While Hopkins actually knockout both Tito and DLH and both of them has never been knockout before and Tito was favored to end Hopkins reign. Though DLH and Tito may or may not be as good as Leonard or Duran.