Who Wins In A Street Brawl?, MMAer's vs. Boxers

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  • jabsRstiff
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    #81
    For an MMer, & certainly for a regular guy....Chuck Lidell is a huge puncher.
    Take him as he is, right now, & he'd be a mediocre puncher for a pro boxer.
    But, that's mainly due because boxing is only a part of what he does. With more boxing training, he'd be a big time hitter.
    He hits harder than Manny Pacquiao....because he's so much bigger. Doesn't hit as sweetly or as fast....but I'd rather take a Pac punch, than one of Chuck's.
    Pacquiao is a bad choice to put up against an MMAer like Lidell.
    Head to head...or for punching power.

    I'd make Lidell a favorite, on the street, over Mike Tyson. Lidell would attempt incorporate his grappling/ground skills....& would be successful if Tyson doesn't connect on him right away.

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    • Banderivets
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      #82
      Originally posted by RunWithKnives
      I disagree with the bolded part. The winner is usually the person who still has gas in the tank after pounding on someone.
      By proper punch I mean a knock down, once a person is knocked down you can just kick him in the head and kill them, brake their arms, snap their neck...

      Once a person is buzzed and on the ground he's ****ed.

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      • m00ks
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        #83
        Against world class boxer, I don't even know how MMA fighters would get close enough to grapple without eating anything heavy at range or get their ass counterpunched coming in. And it ain't like the boxer's feet would be stuck on cement that they can't move em. Take in to the fact that there aren't any ropes restricting a boxers mobiliy and he can land clean heavy shots from distance without allowing the MMA fighter get in for a takedown.

        Now if they somehow end up on the ground then I guess its obvious whos got the advantage. The trick is getting to that position which isn't gonna happen that easily.

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        • Run
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          #84
          Originally posted by sfdmalex
          By proper punch I mean a knock down, once a person is knocked down you can just kick him in the head and kill them, brake their arms, snap their neck...

          Once a person is buzzed and on the ground he's ****ed.
          Good point. I did not see exactly what you meant....you are absolutely correct.

          Oh and on the Issue of Pacman and Lidell.....

          I would rather fight Pacquaio bare fisted:

          Than fight Chuck even if I was given a baseball bat to defend myself.



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          • VulgarTheClown
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            #85
            no boxer would beat an MMA guy in an MMA fight

            very few MMA guys could beat a world class boxer in a moxing match (I say this because MMA has attracted quite a few world class boxers and kick boxers.)

            in a street fight anything can happen cause your not talkin about rules your talkin about rocks, sticks, knives, bottles, etc..

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            • VulgarTheClown
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              #86
              Rumor is Pacquaio used ot be a Thai boxer

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                #87
                Originally posted by m00ks
                Against world class boxer, I don't even know how MMA fighters would get close enough to grapple without eating anything heavy at range or get their ass counterpunched coming in. And it ain't like the boxer's feet would be stuck on cement that they can't move em. Take in to the fact that there aren't any ropes restricting a boxers mobiliy and he can land clean heavy shots from distance without allowing the MMA fighter get in for a takedown.

                Now if they somehow end up on the ground then I guess its obvious whos got the advantage. The trick is getting to that position which isn't gonna happen that easily.
                Lets say we have a flexible 6 foot plus MMA guy who can just kick the boxer in the face. He doesnt even need to be close to him since the reach a foot is much longer then that of an arm.

                Trust me, I've seen some guys who can throw their legs around as well as Ali threw his fists.

                Its really a toss.

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                • Run
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                  #88
                  I still say Lee Murray would cripple Bernard Hopkins in a street fight.



                  Look at that ****ing psycho.



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                  • m00ks
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by sfdmalex
                    Lets say we have a flexible 6 foot plus MMA guy who can just kick the boxer in the face. He doesnt even need to be close to him since the reach a foot is much longer then that of an arm.

                    Trust me, I've seen some guys who can throw their legs around as well as Ali threw his fists.

                    Its really a toss.
                    well ya, but like I said its not like a boxer is just gonna stand there and take it like an idiot. But ya, I agree, you cant really tell what can happen.

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                    • VulgarTheClown
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                      #90
                      I've watched world class boxers train MMA (Shannon Briggs) standing he is a killer. but as soon as you break past the punching distance into clinching distance (which isn't hard at all, look at Ruiz) by what m00ks says Ruiz should get KO'd everytime he rushes in with his sloppy looping clinch boxing bull****.

                      Fact of the matter is Boxers can shut down a boxing clinch but once they clich wit ha grecco wrestler within moments they will be on their ass. I'm just talkin a decent county lvl grecco wrestler. With relatively the same result fro ma freestyle or folk wrestler.


                      A boxer in a clinch would have a better chance with a thai boxer that wants to stand there clinch and knee because the boxer can still work uppercuts and bod hooks but woiuld likely eat quite a few knees for not knowing how to defend propperly.

                      as for a grappler or jiu-jitsu guy the clicn is less effective for them because they have put in less work on takedown and mostly all work on once its already on the floor. they are typically versed in just enough to get them there tho its no refined like a wrester who'd game is the takedown.


                      All in all I like boxing mixed with wrestling. a boxer with a sprawl is devistating in all facets. look at Frank Trigg. Good boxer great wrestler nearly no submission background, very affective!

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