Manny Pacquiao thank you for RUINING boxing...

[purecyse]

the only real defense that can be put up for manny pacquiao constantly fighting losers is to find examples where floyd mayweather did it, too.

that is no real defense.

the arguments would be over if people would stop defending their favorite fighter's actions and just agreeing that they would have, at least, prefered they took a different route.

in david diaz, he fought the weakest 135 champion.
fought a de la hoya that roach urged to retire two fights before.
fought a ricky hatton that had been knocked out by floyd then dang near knock out again in england his next fight before fighting the light hitting malinaggi to set up one last big payday.
cotto got a belt from jennings (completely overmatched opponent) after getting broken down by margarito and was thrown in with a fellow top rank employee to keep the belt in-house only to be fed to manny (though i still think this was a good win).
clottey, with losses to margarito and cotto due to lack of activity, is put in with pacquiao right after his last loss. mysteriously, won't throw punches and comes back in interviews afterward saying a lot of "things" were going on.
now, margarito, who was laughed at as a possible opponent until mosley stopped his train. afterward, he gets a tune-up, and that's who top rank wants to feed manny next.

i think when he won that fight at 140, and gained the lineal championship, he could have safely cleared out that division in about 2 years and then moved up to tackle 147. his timing, and refusal to fight shane mosley, made it so he was fighting "damaged" product.

[King Of Ring]

paman all time great!

[cixthree]

Mayweather fought Zab Judah after getting beat by Carlos Baldomir.

JMM and Floyd fought at a catchweight, which Floyd didn't make anyways.

Apply the same standard to Floyd as you do to Manny.

Just like a Turd to tell 1/2 truths.
Floyd and Zab agreed to fight B4 he lost to Baldi, he then fought Baldi to get the belts he was supposed to take from Zab..
Stop learning boxing history on PacLand.

[cixthree]

the only real defense that can be put up for manny pacquiao constantly fighting losers is to find examples where floyd mayweather did it, too.

that is no real defense.

the arguments would be over if people would stop defending their favorite fighter's actions and just agreeing that they would have, at least, prefered they took a different route.

in david diaz, he fought the weakest 135 champion.
fought a de la hoya that roach urged to retire two fights before.
fought a ricky hatton that had been knocked out by floyd then dang near knock out again in england his next fight before fighting the light hitting malinaggi to set up one last big payday.
cotto got a belt from jennings (completely overmatched opponent) after getting broken down by margarito and was thrown in with a fellow top rank employee to keep the belt in-house only to be fed to manny (though i still think this was a good win).
clottey, with losses to margarito and cotto due to lack of activity, is put in with pacquiao right after his last loss. mysteriously, won't throw punches and comes back in interviews afterward saying a lot of "things" were going on.
now, margarito, who was laughed at as a possible opponent until mosley stopped his train. afterward, he gets a tune-up, and that's who top rank wants to feed manny next.

i think when he won that fight at 140, and gained the lineal championship, he could have safely cleared out that division in about 2 years and then moved up to tackle 147. his timing, and refusal to fight shane mosley, made it so he was fighting "damaged" product.

You will be attacked bro, but none of your facts will be debunked, ul just be called names.. lock ur windows and pray...

I thought I was the only one who caught that Clottey signal... his attitude just changed when he was asked "what happend". You can tell he's a proud man and wanted to say something, but he couldn't.. man I'm glad you caught that.

[Medved]

Geez this is like the millionth floyd vs pacq thread. Who cares if either fighter wanted to really make this fight happen it wouldve happened already. Floyd doesnt actively pursue top fighters he cherry picks alot but gets alot of cash for fighting so he dont care he just wants to make his money without risking his record.

[PsYcHoDaD]

The TS does make a very good point. Manny is supposed to be the best fighter in the world. Why is he fighting Clottey and Margarito back to back? That's not stuff champions are made of.

If people are gonna criticize Floyd then Manny deserves the same amount.

Manny fighting Margarito is like Floyd fighting Carlos Quintana next.

No thats to much of a challange for him Quintana beat Williams try Calderon

[Scott9945]

Another whining ***** thread

[Mr. Philadel]

The TS does make a very good point. Manny is supposed to be the best fighter in the world. Why is he fighting Clottey and Margarito back to back? That's not stuff champions are made of.

If people are gonna criticize Floyd then Manny deserves the same amount.

Manny fighting Margarito is like Floyd fighting Carlos Quintana next.

I co-sign this^^^^^^^

[cleaner147]

oh, I read "Pac RUNNING the sport", but now Im realizing that you said "RUINING", so Im leaving, good luck.

[Orgasmatron]

Pacquiao has put me off boxing. I love the sport but it's hard to love the sport when you get fighters like Pacquiao who claim to be the best but refuse to fight the best. If you disagree then I will give you plenty of evidence to back up my argument. Margarito isnt the first damaged opponent he's fighting and he won't be the last either. Pacquiao fought Erik Morales after he was dominated by Zahir Raheem, He fought Ricky Hatton after he was knocked out by Floyd Mayweather, He fought Miguel Cotto after he was knocked out by Antonio Margarito and now he's fighting Antonio Margarito after he was knocked out by Shane Mosley.

I can't remember any other fighter getting so much credit for beating damaged opposition. My favorite fighter, Floyd Mayweather Jr is always called a "cherrypicker" on this forum but how many fighters has he fought coming off KO losses? How many catchweight fights has he had? How many vacant belts has he won? Zero. He always moved up and beat the official champion for the WBC belt which was regarded as the best belt, until they sanctioned Pacquiao-Margarito as a world title fight. Now the WBC has lost alot of credibility but back then it was the best belt.

I think the worst thing about Pacquiao is his fake image and attitude. He acts as though Mayweather is ducking him but that's clearly not the case. Pacquiao was offered a 14 day cutoff with a 50-50 split and rejected it. Floyd then said that was off the table and he would demand 60-40 and Pacquiao is refusing to agree to it. But he's still claiming Floyd is ducking him when in reality he is ducking the fight. 60-40 and random OSDT would get the fight done but I don't think Pacquiao will ever agree. He will claim he agreed to boost his image and Floyd will get blasted for "ducking him". Floyd is always looked at as the bad guy but he is willing to prove he is clean and Pacquiao is not. He wants scheduled tests, 14 day cutoff etc anything but the USADA testing up until the fight. Floyd will do whatever test USADA want but Pacquiao is not willing. But Floyd is the bad guy?


This whole thing has really put me off boxing. I still love the sport but the sooner Manny Pacquiao retires and we don't have to put up with his B.S and lies. The better for boxing and it's fans.

When did Pac say he was the best? Seriously.