Is Margarito PACQUIAO's most challenging opponent to date?

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  • Hasha
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    #31
    Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
    marg is a cheater.

    he is disgraced.

    some of his fights will be questioned.


    but at the end of the day he beat cotto.

    i love how marg gets caught trying to cheat mosley and cotto fans automatically want to say he cheated cotto. lmfao

    there's no proof.
    I love how marg fans think that you have to be a Cotto fan to think he cheated against him.

    there's no proof he didn't cheat against him, so we have to go by what we saw:

    Cotto got beat to a pulp by a guy who in the very next fight gets caught trying to cheat. Without it, he doesn't have the same power...put 2 and 2 together...

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    • frankisdead
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      #32
      Originally posted by SNVDoublePunch!
      I don't remember Clottey running anywhere, just turtling up.
      he was running its just turtles are really slow

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      • Left Hook Tua
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        #33
        Originally posted by Big Dunn
        Tua its not as simple as can't prove a negative. By getting caught against a heavy underdog it makes you think what did he do when he was the underdog. I know where you are coming from but its hard for me to give Marg any credit for past wins.

        Look at it lke this, do you really believe this was the 1st time Capitello did this?
        it makes you wonder but those wins don't automatically become losses.

        i refuse to believe that he could have gotten away with it so many times.

        it's just impossible.

        more than likely his dumbass looked awful in camp (as reported before the mosley fight) and they decided to cheat and got caught.

        this is not like hgh or roids or something that you can get away with it for a long time.

        everytime you mess with handwraps there's a 50/50 chance you'll get caught.

        actually probably bigger odds than 50/50 you get caught.
        Last edited by Left Hook Tua; 09-01-2010, 08:03 AM.

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        • Left Hook Tua
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          #34
          Originally posted by Hasha
          I love how marg fans think that you have to be a Cotto fan to think he cheated against him.

          there's no proof he didn't cheat against him, so we have to go by what we saw:

          Cotto got beat to a pulp by a guy who in the very next fight gets caught trying to cheat. Without it, he doesn't have the same power...put 2 and 2 together...
          cotto got beat to a pulp by a blown up featherweight , so hard to imagine marg a huge welterweight can't?

          give me a break.

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          • Hasha
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            #35
            Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
            yeah i'm a tough guy because i told you to deal with a loss.

            he doesn't need to prove he didn't cheat.

            he won the fight and there's no proof at all. none.


            it's not like plaster or no plaster would really make a difference.

            cotto lost because he couldn't hurt marg and he ran out of gas , as always.
            margarita not needing to prove he didn't cheat does NOT change the fact that there is no proof he did not cheat.

            If someone throws 10 punches at you without plaster, would that take the same kind of toll on you if he threw the same number of punches with plaster?? So maybe the plaster did really make a difference cuz it took something out of Cotto??

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            • FloydTBE
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              #36
              Theres no proof that margarito did use illegal wraps agianst cotto, people can speculate but theres no proof. Im a huge cotto fan and i was very annoyed when margarito got caught using illegal wraps, but face the facts, it hasnt been proven that margarito used them agaisnt cotto.

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              • The Big Dunn
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                #37
                Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
                it makes you wonder but those wins don't automatically become losses.

                i refuse to believe that he could have gotten away with it so many times.

                it's just impossible.

                more than likely his dumbass looked awful in camp (as reported before the mosley fight) and they decided to cheat and got caught.

                this is not like hgh or roids or something that you can get away with it for a long time.

                everytime you mess with handwraps there's a 50/50 chance you'll get caught.

                actually probably bigger odds than 50/50 you get caught.
                Not saying the wins become losses. I'm saying you don't know which fights he cheated and which fights he didn't, except the Shane fight. You believe he cheated once and got caught. I don't believe that. Fact is i don't know what to believe, but I don't think this was his first time.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Hasha
                  margarita not needing to prove he didn't cheat does NOT change the fact that there is no proof he did not cheat.

                  If someone throws 10 punches at you without plaster, would that take the same kind of toll on you if he threw the same number of punches with plaster?? So maybe the plaster did really make a difference cuz it took something out of Cotto??
                  the way cotto fought that night played into marg's hands.

                  even if marg didn't have plaster it would have ended the same way.

                  1. constant moving hurt his stamina even more

                  2. constant moving backwards meant less power on his shots

                  3. he doesn't know how to clinch

                  with his tactical mistakes that night , no plaster and it ends up the same

                  if he changed up his gameplan , with plaster and cotto would probably still win it.

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                  • Hasha
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
                    cotto got beat to a pulp by a blown up featherweight , so hard to imagine marg a huge welterweight can't?

                    give me a break.
                    why are you calling puckiao a blown up featherweight when he seems perfectly comfortable at welter? puckiao is already under the radar in the eyes of many. second, cotto's face was much worse after the margarita fight, and he had to be rushed to the hospital. in the puckiao fight he stayed in the ring to give his
                    thoughts on the fight...now explain the lack of power in margarita's punches in the mosley and garcia fight..

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                    • Left Hook Tua
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Big Dunn
                      Not saying the wins become losses. I'm saying you don't know which fights he cheated and which fights he didn't, except the Shane fight. You believe he cheated once and got caught. I don't believe that. Fact is i don't know what to believe, but I don't think this was his first time.
                      i think it was.

                      i read heading into the camp , marg looked dreadful. he looked like absolute **** from what i read.

                      i think that's why they tried to cheat.

                      i don't think marg "didn't know" like others claim. i think marg knew.

                      i think capetillo thought he looked awful and he panicked and came up with an idea to cheat and marg went along with it.

                      he's still a cheater. what he did is a disgrace.

                      but i don't think he was doing it before.

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