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  • led
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    Super Six Walls Come Crumblin’ Down

    Super Six Walls Come Crumblin’ Down
    By William Trillo




    When I got the email from Showtime that gave the bad news about Mikkel Kessler being forced to pull out of the Super Six tournament my kneejerk reaction was to hit the keyboard and pound out an “I Told You So” blog. But as I got to the end of the email the Showtime executive closed by saying if there were any questions to feel free to contact him, I calmed down. That invite to respond seemed sincere enough…so I did.

    Well as I write this blog four full days have passed and I have heard not zippo from anyone at Showtime. Not a quick note asking me to please be patient, that more information would be coming shortly, nor did I get a quick blast telling me to stick my email were the sun does not shine…NOTHING!

    Since no one at Showtime would respond, allow me to go over some of the highlights of my email and let’s see if we can come up with some conclusions of our own.

    I told the exec that in theory I had nothing against finding the best fighter in every weight division and that unifying the titles and getting one conclusive Champion in each division was fantastic, a great idea!

    It was then I had to remind him that although the Showtime venture was commendable, the six man Round Robin Tourney was at the very best a train derailment destined to happen…and it did.

    Yeah, it was real hard to see that coming..?

    Take 6 (now 7) fighters, multiple promoters and managers and spread them out over a multiple stage round robin tournament and the chances of coming to a definitive conclusion with any success was minimal at best, there are just too many ego’s and worst case scenarios (injuries, forced retirements, inconclusive endings) involved.

    Next on my agenda was the status of the September 25th bout featuring the Andre’s, Ward & Dirrell. There still is no venue for the fight and last I heard neither fighter was training. Worse yet was the rumor that because they are such close friends the Andre’s didn’t want to fight each other anyways. Whatever the case may be it’s the end of August and we have no set venue for this ill fated fight.

    And although there doesn’t seem to be a problem with the Abraham vs. Froch October 2nd fight, (yet), the venue in Monaco that is staging the event, Chapiteau de Fontvieille, has nothing on their website about the fight, no ticket information, nothing. Do with that information as you will.

    I also inquired about rumored scenarios that dump Allan Green and have the tournament jump to the final stages with the 4 fighters left…ahem…standing.

    Again…zilch!

    In closing I wrote:

    I applaud the idea of finding a true Champion in each division and I hope the idea continues. When Bernard Hopkins made his mark by standing over a fallen Felix Trinidad and capturing the WBC, WBA & IBF Middleweight Belts the boxing world was treated to an exciting tournament that took place in the same calendar year. The Super Six began in 2009 and now it appears it will not come to any kind of conclusion until 2011…? That is way too long.

    I am sorry, but in my opinion this tournament has done nothing but lock up a talent laden division and kept other worthy 168 pound fighters from getting their deserved shot at a title. In my opinion the end result will be forever second guessed.

    Thank you for your time and I look forward to your reply.

    I am still awaiting that reply.

    From day one I told you this Super Six idea was a complete disaster. I warned you Abraham would beat Jermain Taylor into retirement weeks before it happened. I told you fights would get postponed because of reported injuries, and again I was right. I told you that multiple promoters would never agree throughout the Tournament and you see that prediction coming to pass right now. Throughout this tourney fans argued with me and told me I knew nothing, but I held firm to my conviction.

    So take a look at where we are now.

    Even though my predictions have come to fruition I certainly don’t claim to be a genius, it didn’t take a rocket scientist to see this coming.

    In reality all it took to put this doomed Super Six Round Robin Tournament together was a few naive network executives and a handful of over zealous promoters.
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    link: http://pound4pound.com/BillysBoxingB...E2%80%99-down/


    your thoughts?
  • Joe2608
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    #2
    He sounds like a **** tbh. The Super six was a brilliant idea, you can't predict injuries.

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      #3
      Originally posted by led
      Super Six Walls Come Crumblin’ Down
      By William Trillo




      When I got the email from Showtime that gave the bad news about Mikkel Kessler being forced to pull out of the Super Six tournament my kneejerk reaction was to hit the keyboard and pound out an “I Told You So” blog. But as I got to the end of the email the Showtime executive closed by saying if there were any questions to feel free to contact him, I calmed down. That invite to respond seemed sincere enough…so I did.

      Well as I write this blog four full days have passed and I have heard not zippo from anyone at Showtime. Not a quick note asking me to please be patient, that more information would be coming shortly, nor did I get a quick blast telling me to stick my email were the sun does not shine…NOTHING!

      Since no one at Showtime would respond, allow me to go over some of the highlights of my email and let’s see if we can come up with some conclusions of our own.

      I told the exec that in theory I had nothing against finding the best fighter in every weight division and that unifying the titles and getting one conclusive Champion in each division was fantastic, a great idea!

      It was then I had to remind him that although the Showtime venture was commendable, the six man Round Robin Tourney was at the very best a train derailment destined to happen…and it did.

      Yeah, it was real hard to see that coming..?

      Take 6 (now 7) fighters, multiple promoters and managers and spread them out over a multiple stage round robin tournament and the chances of coming to a definitive conclusion with any success was minimal at best, there are just too many ego’s and worst case scenarios (injuries, forced retirements, inconclusive endings) involved.

      Next on my agenda was the status of the September 25th bout featuring the Andre’s, Ward & Dirrell. There still is no venue for the fight and last I heard neither fighter was training. Worse yet was the rumor that because they are such close friends the Andre’s didn’t want to fight each other anyways. Whatever the case may be it’s the end of August and we have no set venue for this ill fated fight.

      And although there doesn’t seem to be a problem with the Abraham vs. Froch October 2nd fight, (yet), the venue in Monaco that is staging the event, Chapiteau de Fontvieille, has nothing on their website about the fight, no ticket information, nothing. Do with that information as you will.

      I also inquired about rumored scenarios that dump Allan Green and have the tournament jump to the final stages with the 4 fighters left…ahem…standing.

      Again…zilch!

      In closing I wrote:

      I applaud the idea of finding a true Champion in each division and I hope the idea continues. When Bernard Hopkins made his mark by standing over a fallen Felix Trinidad and capturing the WBC, WBA & IBF Middleweight Belts the boxing world was treated to an exciting tournament that took place in the same calendar year. The Super Six began in 2009 and now it appears it will not come to any kind of conclusion until 2011…? That is way too long.

      I am sorry, but in my opinion this tournament has done nothing but lock up a talent laden division and kept other worthy 168 pound fighters from getting their deserved shot at a title. In my opinion the end result will be forever second guessed.

      Thank you for your time and I look forward to your reply.

      I am still awaiting that reply.

      From day one I told you this Super Six idea was a complete disaster. I warned you Abraham would beat Jermain Taylor into retirement weeks before it happened. I told you fights would get postponed because of reported injuries, and again I was right. I told you that multiple promoters would never agree throughout the Tournament and you see that prediction coming to pass right now. Throughout this tourney fans argued with me and told me I knew nothing, but I held firm to my conviction.

      So take a look at where we are now.

      Even though my predictions have come to fruition I certainly don’t claim to be a genius, it didn’t take a rocket scientist to see this coming.

      In reality all it took to put this doomed Super Six Round Robin Tournament together was a few naive network executives and a handful of over zealous promoters.
      ----
      link: http://pound4pound.com/BillysBoxingB...E2%80%99-down/


      your thoughts?
      My thoughts are that you are trying to get credit for something that we all seen coming. The Super 6 is the best idea anyone in boxing has come up with in years. It's also the first one for Showtime so it's not going to be perfect the first time out. Stop hating and just except this fresh air that was just given to us.

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      • led
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        #4
        Originally posted by Joe2608
        He sounds like a **** tbh. The Super six was a brilliant idea, you can't predict injuries.
        i agree. just wanting to know if any of the postersagree with the writer's points taken.

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        • BMWM3P
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          #5
          The writer is just plain dumb. Acting as if he's some kind of Nostradamus for predicting there were going to be problems in the super six. Of course there were going to be problems everybody knew that that it shouldn't be done because of that probability is just ignorant.

          It was a brilliant idea and I hope it's starts a trend in boxing.

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          • BattlingNelson
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            #6
            Supersix has provided us with some great fights and some needed hype. Of course the format has some flaws. Not the round robin, which I think was the key to securing everyones participation, but rather the drama over venues and officials. Those things need to be prearranged before the next tournament takes off.

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            • John Hue
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              #7
              Super 6 was a great idea.We got some rally big fights out of it. Fights that would not have happened.The tournament was a great idea.Look at the LWW division where the best won't fight the best before slagging off the Super 6 idea.

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              • Dick Buffman
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                #8
                Its not like showtime invented the tournament idea, but they should get some credit for going through with it.

                Thats about where the credit ends though because the execution, planning, groundrules, and every other organizational aspect of this thing has been ****.

                For one its too long, for another, the venue disputes are lame.

                Three, how can you have a tournament without Bute in it?

                Four, Andre Ward's fights are all in Oakland?

                I mean, wtf? Sounds like a team of monkeys put this thing together.

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                • Grimmer
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                  #9
                  I'm not too bothered about the tourney being cancelled now, Froch v Abraham looks likee it will happen anyway. My fear is that Dirrell and Ward won't fight. I was really looking forward to that match, or potentially two if they both got to the final. If the Super Six collapses I can see them cancelling their fight and not fighting each other for a long time, if ever. They're both good friends, they're both very talented fighters and there is enough decent opponents and title holders out there to keep them both apart for years.

                  I commended the Super Six for making this fight happen, but it looks like my commendations were pre-mature. Dirrell and Ward will turn into a Bradley and Alexander type situation without the tournament forcing them to fight.

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                  • DC Fight Fan
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                    #10
                    The writer s dead on! Rip him if you want but many said the same thing he did. I said until I was blue in the face that the tourney was to long and the round robin format would lose interest.

                    You guys have to understand that the purpose should have been to captivate the fringe fan. You all are hardcores and would have watched smurfs box for a title.

                    This should have been an "Elite 8" single elimination format completed withing one calander year.

                    January

                    Match 1 1-8
                    Match 2 2-7

                    February

                    Match 3 3-6
                    Match 4 4-5

                    June

                    Match 5 Winner Match 1 vs. Winner Match 4
                    Match 6 Winner Match 2 vs. Winner Match 3

                    September

                    SEMIS

                    December

                    FINALS

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